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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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how much do dauls for a 4th gen f body normally cost
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You're going to have clearance issues. The exhaust is going to be only a couple inches above the street. Cost? It varies shop to shop I suppose. I'd guess $400-800.
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I'm curious, too. I've talked to my exhaust guy about it, and he says there's no way I can run 2 1/2" True Duals, let alone 3". I know I've seen 3" run over the axle, but I can't seem to find anymore pics of it.

I'm not as happy with my MAC/ORY/Flowmouth setup as I thought I'd be. So I'm thinking about the new TSP 1 7/8" LTs and 3" mandrel bent TDs with two Super 44s right in front of the tips.

Do I just need to go to another exhaust shop?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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haha i was like, "wtf is a daul?" there have been people on here that have done the labor themselves, and from headers back, it was only $300 give or take. however, if you have a shop do it, you'll be looking at a much higher cost, considering it'll be custom-made.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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So I'm thinking about the new TSP 1 7/8" LTs and 3" mandrel bent TDs with two Super 44s right in front of the tips.
1 7/8"? isn't that a little big? i thought most people run 1 3/4" unless there is some serious HP delivered.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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It's an LPE 346 w/LS6 STG3 heads. It has a baby cam in it now(215/231, .641/.644, 118 LSA), but it just stopped being driven 100+ miles/day... so I'll probably go for a much bigger cam (LPE GT1-1 maybe) and try for the 500 rwhp mark. So yeah... 1 7/8 for the max top end power.
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my towns local muffler and exhaust shop. Usually does dauls for around $200 he's pretty dam good i think he could pull it off.
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Originally Posted by jmdale1984
It's an LPE 346 w/LS6 STG3 heads. It has a baby cam in it now(215/231, .641/.644, 118 LSA), but it just stopped being driven 100+ miles/day... so I'll probably go for a much bigger cam (LPE GT1-1 maybe) and try for the 500 rwhp mark. So yeah... 1 7/8 for the max top end power.
ohhh yea definitely 1 7/8" then. sorry. i just saw your sig and was curious.

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my towns local muffler and exhaust shop. Usually does dauls for around $200 he's pretty dam good i think he could pull it off.
would you want it dumped before the axle, or done over the axle? i just recently saw someone on here do a setup with oval piping. that would definitely help clearance issues. dumped before the axle is pretty simple, so that shouldn't be too big of a job, which really means "not too big of a check."
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ohhh yea definitely 1 7/8" then. sorry. i just saw your sig and was curious.



would you want it dumped before the axle, or done over the axle? i just recently saw someone on here do a setup with oval piping. that would definitely help clearance issues. dumped before the axle is pretty simple, so that shouldn't be too big of a job, which really means "not too big of a check."
Oval piping is expensive. Dumping before the axle would probably be the way to go and maybe net a few more hp. Who knows.
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Oval piping is expensive. Dumping before the axle would probably be the way to go and maybe net a few more hp. Who knows.
yea it's expensive. but i figure "if you're gonna do a job, you might as well get it done right to prevent issues down the road."
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yea it's expensive. but i figure "if you're gonna do a job, you might as well get it done right to prevent issues down the road."
In this instance, you're entirely correct. The only problem is if the OP doesn't want to fork out the extra cash but still wants duals.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jmdale1984
Do I just need to go to another exhaust shop?
Yes.

And as far as a price for duals, there's a lot of different factors involved... what size piping are you going to run? What mufflers are you going to use? Are you going to do it yourself or have a shop do it? What shop? Is it going to be dumped at the axle? Or ran over the axle? Or ran under the axle?
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i was thinking drop it befor the back axles use the stock tips it'll flow good with the car looks wise i think
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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duals always seemed more trouble than they were worth. 3" cat-back and a cut-out is the way to go in my opinion.

BUT if you want to do it more power to you, I do agree that if you want to do it, do it right. Oval pipe will help out lots with clearance. I have clearance issues and I do not even run duals.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Well I'm running 3" true duals on mine dumped before the axle and it's LOUD (!CATS and bullet outlaw mufflers = zero restriction).

Another drawback is that the car hardly ever stays clean from the dust being blown up from the ground.

The best advice is to go ORY, 3" mandrel bent, cut out, over the axle, (insert your favorite muffler here) and a couple of sweet tips.

So , where's the best place to get an ORY?


Yeah, yeah..I know... (for all you "search" police)
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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would you want it dumped before the axle, or done over the axle? i just recently saw someone on here do a setup with oval piping. that would definitely help clearance issues
That was my car with the 4" dual oval exhaust..... it's expensive but ground clearance is near stock... Dumping prior to the axle with turndowns will get the car extremely dirty as all the dust venturi's over the top of the car.... the car will never stay clean....

oval piping is very expensive but like others have said, there is the right way to do it and the other way....

and did the OP say you're going to do turndowns prior to the axle using the stock tips????? I don't even know what to say about that if that's what your intention is.....
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironxcross
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You're going to have clearance issues. The exhaust is going to be only a couple inches above the street. Cost? It varies shop to shop I suppose. I'd guess $400-800.
Originally Posted by jmdale1984
I'm curious, too. I've talked to my exhaust guy about it, and he says there's no way I can run 2 1/2" True Duals, let alone 3". I know I've seen 3" run over the axle, but I can't seem to find anymore pics of it.

Do I just need to go to another exhaust shop?
I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about. I've run 2 1/2 true duals for 2 years and I've never scraped them driving or even on a speed bump. I think you guys are referring to using a really fat muffler or something. The pipes will never scrape if you tuck them nice, the only thing I can imagine scraping is the muffler if you run them before the axle and dump. Some guys run the pipes over the axle and have the mufflers in the similar to stock location.

Here is my write up on my pipes that I haven't scraped:
http://www.lt1engine.com/tech/how-to...duals-exhaust/

And the "I know I've seen 3" run over the axle, but I can't seem to find anymore pics of it":
http://www.lt1engine.com/?level=album&id=7&plog_page=2
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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dauls are pretty rare..on the other hand, duals are not that expensive in the long run.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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my duals costed me 200 for labor and 75 each for the mufflers. i first used moroso spiral flows and they were very fat and i scraped a couple of times with them. they were a little too much for me (too loud) so i switched to flowmaster 10 series mufflers. the lowest point of my exhaust comes right after the left collecor and ive never scraped with the new mufflers. they are turned down before the axle and i love the sound.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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I've got 2.5" over the axle and out the back. I originally had them dumped and got tired of the noise and exhaust fumes so I ran them over the axle myself, pretty simple actually. You have to take out that one brace in order to have enough room on the driver side. I'm gonna have to move the mufflers to the very back of the car tho, they are huge and drag. Check out my sig link and hear what it sounds like, I love it now. I did have some pics of the exhaust somewhere.
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