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open borla vs. open cutout?

Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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i cant remember where i read this and i cant find it again. but it seems like i read that having longtubes, ory, and a borla catback with no plate was almost the same as having lt's, ory, and an open cutout. is that true? just wondering for my own personal knowledge.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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I have long tubes with ORY and catback, the plates come out so you can run wide open if you like but my car was so load i put the full plate back in, sounds bad@$$ now!
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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If you take the tip off on the passenger side it gets a good bit louder. I ran no plate with hooker LTs and a ORY, car got tons of compliments from people. I have cats now, still no plate.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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with an open borla the direction of the flow path would be straight out before entering the muffler.if its closed it sends it through the muffler. so if you ran a different muffler with a cutout before the muffler it would be the same setup. go for the sound that you want
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Coming from a person that used to have an open cutout, its a totally different sound. The Borla sounds way different than a open cutout, even at wot the sound is different. Im not sure about hp differences but I sure sa hell like my open plate Borla over my cutout.

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Originally Posted by MEAN LT1
Coming from a person that used to have an open cutout, its a totally different sound. The Borla sounds way different than a open cutout, even at wot the sound is different. Im not sure about hp differences but I sure sa hell like my open plate Borla over my cutout.

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thanks for the vids. they sound about the same as far as loudness. i can tell a slight difference in tone in the borla video. maybe its different in person. either way it sounds great!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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There is a bigger difference than you think between the 2. It is pretty loud with open borla but it is even louder with an open cut-out.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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There is a bigger difference than you think between the 2. It is pretty loud with open borla but it is even louder with an open cut-out.
YUP--I have LT'S+ORY+QTEC[cutout]+7 year old Flowmaster...when I get on it ..it is REALLY LOUD.....
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MeanLT1 and Racin96 are dead-on, they sound nothing alike and performance depends, if you mean by ORY (pre-axle) mounted (single cutout) ...ehhh it'd be very minimal performance wise on a dyno. If you were talking about dual cutouts mounted post-LTs then you could bump up the rwhp about 13 and torque around 11-12 with a bolt-on stock for the most part cammed LTXX. The sound with dual cutouts are ear-blistering...just ask BIZZATCH ...lol..he knows
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My exhaust setup was as follows... 1-7/8" SS KooK's headers, 3" stainless Y-pipe with no cats and dual 3" electric cut-outs about 10"-12" from the collector, Borla with no plate. (I now run a Corsa cat-back)

Results on my H/C/I LT4

Cutouts closed on the dyno - 392 rwhp and 370 rwtq

Cutouts open (very next run) - 401 rwhp and 375 rwtq

I actually picked up close to 15 tq lower in the rpm range (2,800 - 3,800 rpms) with the cutouts open, which surprized the hell out of me. I never ran the car on the dyno with the Borla capped off, and if I did, I imagine I would have lost 5-10hp more than with it uncapped.

As far as sound goes... the open dual cutouts are just stupid loud, a little muddy down low in the rpm's, but once you get past 3,000... ohh baby!

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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I have long tube hookers,and borla with no plate...sounds good but u cam hear the cam better with the cutouts and more HP. not much though.
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