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BruceBufferTA 05-11-2010 09:04 AM

Best overall shifter for my M6
 
Currently have the Hurst Short shifter. Is there anything else avail that would be an approvement for a better shift? 3rd gear is killing me!

udienow 05-11-2010 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by BruceBufferTA (Post 13313652)
Currently have the Hurst Short shifter. Is there anything else avail that would be an approvement for a better shift? 3rd gear is killing me!

The Pro 5.0 is supposed to address the 3rd gear shift. I still have a hard time even with the Pro 5.0... idk might just be me though.

Another shifter that is popular right now is the MGW. I have never ran it so idk how good it really is. I may buy this one day to replace my Pro 5.0 just to try it out.

*02WS6TURK* 05-11-2010 02:07 PM

I hear nothing but good things about the Pro 5.0. I don't mind my Hurst..I will do the change over to 5.0 at some point if need be.

deelong4002 05-11-2010 02:28 PM

is third killing you cause it wont go into gear, or because you are missing the gate entirely?

Could be the common problem with the hydraulics that is plaguing you, and not the shifter.

Read about the drill mod.

Midnight02 05-11-2010 02:43 PM

I have a Pro 5.0 and I LOVE it! Firm and very positive feel between gears -- it isn't slushy and you clearly know when you're in the gear and when you aren't.

As for the 2-3 shift, it's almost linear so you completely bypass the up-over-up gate formation.....I haven't missed third since I installed it 15K miles ago.

As stated above, make sure you're issue with getting into 3rd properly isn't actually related to the clutch, hydraulics, etc.

There are plenty of other great options out there (B&M, etc.) -- at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference. If you have a buddy with an f-body and an aftermarket shifter, ask him (or her) to let you take it for a quick drive to get a feel for things.

1QWK408 05-11-2010 03:28 PM

I have the hurst and never had a problem with it but also heard good things of the pro 5.0

slt200mph 05-11-2010 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by BruceBufferTA (Post 13313652)
Currently have the Hurst Short shifter. Is there anything else avail that would be an approvement for a better shift? 3rd gear is killing me!

It isn't the shifter it is you. Your technique is flawed. Been using the Hurst Shifter with an extra short shaft for over 8 years, 200,000 miles and hundreds of power shifts through the gears without any problems. There are many articles on correct gear shifting technique. Find one read it and practice till you get it right. It can be something as simple as the way you hold the gear shifter. If your technique is flawed it will still be flawed no matter what brand of shifter you use. Shifting gears is something that needs to be practiced like any other physical activity. Ronnie Sox was the best there ever was at banging gears and he practiced to get to that level of expertise...:D

slow ride 02 05-11-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by slt200mph (Post 13315480)
It isn't the shifter it is you. Your technique is flawed. Been using the Hurst Shifter with an extra short shaft for over 8 years, 200,000 miles and hundreds of power shifts through the gears without any problems. There are many articles on correct gear shifting technique. Find one read it and practice till you get it right. It can be something as simple as the way you hold the gear shifter. If your technique is flawed it will still be flawed no matter what brand of shifter you use. Shifting gears is something that needs to be practiced like any other physical activity. Ronnie Sox was the best there ever was at banging gears and he practiced to get to that level of expertise...:D

Maybe you could point us to these articles you speak of ?

neutron82 05-11-2010 05:00 PM

i have a pro 5.0 and it is 100% better than the crap stock shifter... my car didn't have the hurst shifter so i dunno how those are... the only thing with the pro 5.0 is it transmits noise from the trans through the shifter stick... you can use gasket material in between the trans and mounting plate on the shifter to quiet it down a bit... i did this to mine and when i had stock exhaust it was noticeable at idle and now i have duals and i never hear it anymore... you could always turn the radio up too if it bothers you that much haha... mgw makes nice stuff too, my buddy had a mustang with an mgw shifter and it felt great but i can't vouch for them in our cars... if i ever have a reason to switch my pro 5.0 out, which i don't really see happening, then i might try the mgw

flintwrench69 05-11-2010 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by deelong4002 (Post 13315203)
is third killing you cause it wont go into gear, or because you are missing the gate entirely?

Could be the common problem with the hydraulics that is plaguing you, and not the shifter.

Read about the drill mod.

I agree about the stock hydraulics being the biggest problem with not being able to shift at times with these cars. The stock shifter can contribute to it as well with that rubber bushing thats built into the shifter rod. It flexes & can cause inaccurate shifter placement. Because of this & having shifting problems at the track one of my first mods was a 5.0 shifter. I do like the shifter with its offset design better & I dont miss a shift with it now but at the time I still had problems shifting the trans.
I have heard very good things about the MGW shifter, might have bought one but I tried a 5.0 & liked it.
Shortly after I installed an LS7 clutch & new slave cylinder. While I had it out & removed the master & did the drill mod. None of this made any difference. I have had people at the track tell me they change their clutch fluid all the time so if I do that it will work right. Not buying into this as I did change all the fluid when I did the drill mod & slave & nothing changed. I ended up replacing the master cylinder with the Tick master cylinder & that took care of the problem. It has a very firm feel & it works great. I honestly havent missed a shift since.

SuperSport346 05-11-2010 10:35 PM

Subscribed.

My car has the optional Hurst shifter, and I've never had any problems. I don't race the car though. It's a lot nicer than any other manual I've driven, even though that hasn't been very many.

blue98Z 05-12-2010 10:42 AM

I guess I'll be the odd ball and say B&M since thats what I run in mine. I have really tweeked it though with the adjustment screws so it's awesome as far as I'm concerned.

As mentioned above though, have your hydraulic issues (if any) worked out and fixed and also try to better your shifting technique. Not saying yours sucks or that I'm the best at it but theres always room for improvement. The only time I've missed a gear in my car has been due to hydraulics. I have all that straight now and continue to regularly maintain the system without any problems for the past 5 years. So if your fluid is dark then it needs to be bled with new fluid. If after a week goes by and you check it and it dark again then thats a good sign your slave is bad. Also consider wrapping your clutch line with heat wrap, header wrap, something to keep it as cool as possible and doing the drill mod. As for the master cylinder, well, I've read this and that on all of them, but I run a stock replacement and have ZERO problems with it. I know I got off topic, but wanted to help as much as possible. Main point being that its not necessarily the shifter.

FST SS 05-12-2010 11:39 AM

a Tick mc will solve your shifting problems

SweeTbone 05-15-2010 06:38 AM

Bought a WS6store Short Stick for my factory Hurst shifter and 3rd gear is crisp. Every gear is crisp. Spend $25 and it will solve your problem. But as stated, are you just doing the 1-2-1 GRIND shifting or you getting stuck in the middle of the gate not being able to go into 3rd?

ta-stanger 05-15-2010 06:50 AM

I had the hurst short shifter in mine and would have trouble hitting third at high RPM's. It just hit a wall for a sec.
I put in the B&m Ripper and from day one it was perfect!! Such a huge change.
My hurst was fine till I hit 6 grand then shit hit the fan. :>)

Arctic2002ss 05-15-2010 02:10 PM

Another vote here for the B&M. The 2nd to 3rd shift is the tough one. I was getting really frustrated trying to do a fast 2 to 3 shift. I tried the 5.0 with short stick in someone else's car and really did not like it. It put the shifter down too low in the console for me. I went with the B&M and have been happy ever since.

Arctic2002ss 05-15-2010 02:11 PM

Oh, I started with the Hurst short shifter as well.

D's Hawk 05-15-2010 02:17 PM

I have an MGW and I absolutely love it. It has very strong centering springs and the 2nd to 3rd shift is as easy as just pushing the stick straight forward. The centering springs do the rest of the work for you. Mine has only gotten better the more I drive. I would strongly recommend this shifter to anyone thinking of getting an aftermarket one.

Comp T/A 05-17-2010 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by SweeTbone (Post 13333523)
Bought a WS6store Short Stick for my factory Hurst shifter and 3rd gear is crisp. Every gear is crisp. Spend $25 and it will solve your problem.

Go this route. Great mod for very cheap.

heavy6.0 05-21-2010 06:25 PM

many shifter problems can be attributed to the hydraulics (bad fluid, worn slave cylinder etc.) just changing your fluid on a stock clutch setup can do wonders!


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