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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Hello everyone recently I blew up the 10 bolt with 3.90s on my 2001 SS m6. When the rear exploded I think it took something in the trans with it unfortunatly, but i do not know what. The rear was rebuilt, but once tried to move the car the t56 Transmission is locking/seizing up and making an extremely loud grinding/screetching noise the majority of the time when completely letting off the clutch in reverse and 1rst gear, which are the only two gears i have tried moving the car in. I belive there is nothing suspect about the clutch as it engages properly and feels fine. The noise is coming from the rear of the transmission and goes through the shifter. Can some people please come in and help give me any ideas of what can be wrong. Thanks
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Is the driveshaft still connected? If not, then it sounds like the output shaft might have snapped.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
Is the driveshaft still connected? If not, then it sounds like the output shaft might have snapped.
My Mechanic who built the rear took out the driveshaft and checked the yolk and output shaft and everything looked fine and it was still connected after the rear exploded.

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So it's making noise when trying to drive it? Or are you pushing it around and it's making noise?
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 08:09 AM
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So it's making noise when trying to drive it? Or are you pushing it around and it's making noise?
It is making the noise and the transmission is Locking right after completely disengaging the clutch when trying to drive the car. I havent tried getting the car out of first gear or reverse because of the way the Trans is siezing. The best way to describe it is a screatching/ grinding noise along with the Trans seizing up preventing you to move until you push your foot on the clutch.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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Can anyone else chime in here ?
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 08:23 AM
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Could you post a video so someone could try to help a little better?
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Originally Posted by 01articwhitess
It is making the noise and the transmission is Locking right after completely disengaging the clutch when trying to drive the car. I havent tried getting the car out of first gear or reverse because of the way the Trans is siezing. The best way to describe it is a screatching/ grinding noise along with the Trans seizing up preventing you to move until you push your foot on the clutch.
That's the sound of money leaving your wallet. You'll probably need to pull the trans to get a definitive answer though. Have you drained the fluid and checked for metal?
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blackandgold
That's the sound of money leaving your wallet. You'll probably need to pull the trans to get a definitive answer though. Have you drained the fluid and checked for metal?
No, i have not done that yet. Its hard for me to constantly check up on things lke this because the car is currently sitting in my driveway and im away at College.
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Why don't you put it on jack stands, pull the driveshaft, then crank the car and row through the years. I'm banking on the rear end.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
Why don't you put it on jack stands, pull the driveshaft, then crank the car and row through the years. I'm banking on the rear end.
the noise is coming directly from the trans by the shifter and you can feel the trans siezing up, I dont think it is the rear but i can give that a shot. Also if this helps when sitting still idleing or with the car off, the car smoothly goes through every gear, but when you try to reverse or take off in first, once you fully disengage the clutch and get rolling the trans siezes and makes the gringing noise stopping the power being transfered to the wheels.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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That's why I believe it's the rear ended. Lol. It may sound like it's coming from the trans because its transferring up the driveshaft into the tail shaft which is right at the shifter.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Who rebuilt the rear? And it's free to check it.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
Who rebuilt the rear? And it's free to check it.
Very true, i will try that as soon as possible. My pefromance mechanic that i have been dealing with for a very long time rebuilt the rear end and has done plenty of them and knows what he is doing. I guess putting it up on the stands will show where the problem is. So what your saying is to put it on stands, pull the driveshaft out and start the car up and go through the gears to see if its the trans acting up or not?
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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Yes that's what he wants you to try. I agree with him too, it's an easy way to check if it's rear axle related.

Does it grind as soon as you start letting the clutch out?

Does it fall into 1st and reverse (from neutral) nice and smoothly with the car running?
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Yes that's what he wants you to try. I agree with him too, it's an easy way to check if it's rear axle related.

Does it grind as soon as you start letting the clutch out?

Does it fall into 1st and reverse (from neutral) nice and smoothly with the car running?
No, it does not grind as soon as i start to let out the clutch, it grinds and seizes once the clutch is fully disengaged only. I am able to feather and play with the clutch without any problem until it is Completely disengaged. Also it falls into every gear from nutral perfectly whether the car is running or shut off.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:27 PM
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Definitely yank the drive shaft off and start the car then see if you can get into 1st and reverse without problems.

Tranny/bellhousing doesn't have any noise coming from it at idle?

I guess it would be possible for something to be damaged from the rear end breaking but right now I'm not convinced.

I guess you can also have someone else try to move the car while you lay down listening to locate the noise to the transmission or rear.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by loser98
Definitely yank the drive shaft off and start the car then see if you can get into 1st and reverse without problems.

Tranny/bellhousing doesn't have any noise coming from it at idle?

I guess it would be possible for something to be damaged from the rear end breaking but right now I'm not convinced.

I guess you can also have someone else try to move the car while you lay down listening to locate the noise to the transmission or rear.
I will try that, and no there are no noises coming from the car at all during idle
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It doesn't sound like you have any slave cylinder issues or master cylinder/air in the line problems. That's why we're telling you to check out the rear end by removing the drive shaft. That will certainly help locate the problem.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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When a rear fractures, it sends a severe totque reversal through the drivetrain. This can bend the transmission mainshaft and fracture the rear casting AND the bell( especially on the passenger side). A damaged casting will need attention. A bent mainshaft could cause what you reported.
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