is it neccessary to update a 00 slave to a 01 slave?
is it neccessary to update a 00 slave to a 01 slave? I am currently updating my master cylinder to a 01 GM master and doing the drill mod. Is it also neccessary to update to a 01 GM slave? I wanna get rid of the stupid clutch sticking to the floor whenever i rev my engine high. Thanks
Originally Posted by WildBills WS6
yes. You have to do it. I upgraded my master and slave when I did my spec stage 3. Trust me, you will need to do it
I don't know why they say that, but I can tell you that I fought my McLeod master cylinder for six months, trying to get the air out and a solid pedal. I bled it more times than I can count, both in the car and on the bench. I finally got new '01 slave installed, and the problems with the McLeod went away.
im not goin with a mcleod, im going with the GM 01 master. My dad is just being stupid and wont take apart my entire transmission because he "thinks" it isn't neccessary. Someone PLEASEEEEE give me a good reason why it is cause i know u have to update the slave but my dad is being thick headed
Originally Posted by freakynipples69
im not goin with a mcleod, im going with the GM 01 master. My dad is just being stupid and wont take apart my entire transmission because he "thinks" it isn't neccessary. Someone PLEASEEEEE give me a good reason why it is cause i know u have to update the slave but my dad is being thick headed
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idk, my dad said that he'll update the master and do the drill mod and if my pedal stick does that annoying stick during WOT, he'll replace the slave as well but i just dont wanna have my car go back twice. oh well
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Originally Posted by freakynipples69
My dad is just being stupid and wont take apart my entire transmission because he "thinks" it isn't neccessary. Someone PLEASEEEEE give me a good reason why it is cause i know u have to update the slave but my dad is being thick headed
my dad is a mechanic and owns a repair shop so everything i get done, is done for free so i really cant complain. But NO ONE can tell me why is it neccessary to update the slave? And i thought this was the #1 LS1 tech forum. 
Just messin with you guys.
Just messin with you guys. Last edited by freakynipples69; Jun 21, 2004 at 12:25 PM.
Originally Posted by 66ImpalaLT1
You imply that you must take the tranmission apart to replace the slave. Its simply two bolts on the front.
$90 part that takes 5 minutes to replace if you're already changing the clutch.
$90 part that takes 5 minutes to replace if you're already changing the clutch.
come on ppl! you replace the slave because it cannot flow a respectable mount of fluid like the 01-02's can
if you want an 02 master with 11k miles, i'll sell you the one i've got that i did not use
if you want an 02 master with 11k miles, i'll sell you the one i've got that i did not use
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Originally Posted by freakynipples69
I am currently updating my master cylinder to a 01 GM master and doing the drill mod. Is it also neccessary to update to a 01 GM slave? I wanna get rid of the stupid clutch sticking to the floor whenever i rev my engine high. Thanks
I have the 01 slave (Car is an 01 model) and I am here to tell you that you are wasting your dad's money... Your clutch is sticking to the floor when you rev it either because of air in your system or burnt fluid. All you really need is fresh fluid to cure your problem. If you were to upgrade your master and slave to the 01 model, The problem probably will go away for a while (Because you BLED the system) but give it a summer or two of driving in the heat and it will come back... Just because you have done the 'drill mod' or upgraded to some 01 parts does NOT mean that your pedal won't stick to the floor when the fluid gets hot and burnt...
And later on down the road, after you change out all these parts and the pedal sticks to the floor again, What do you replace then? Save some money for other mods and just bled your system real good...
The 01 Slave is a better unit than the 00 and older.By better,it means better cylinder that pushes the piston out farther and less likely to stick or heat up causing a stuck peddle.
If you are upgrading to an aftermarket clutch, definitely yes. If you have the stocker still, you may want to wait until you upgrade. We just had a 00 slave blow apart on a stage 3 spec unit. Customer had a 01 car, and gm stuck him with 00 hydraulics. It's a shame what GM does with leftover parts. Personally I had a 00 t/b on my 01 car too.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyZ28
I have the 01 slave (Car is an 01 model) and I am here to tell you that you are wasting your dad's money... Your clutch is sticking to the floor when you rev it either because of air in your system or burnt fluid. All you really need is fresh fluid to cure your problem. If you were to upgrade your master and slave to the 01 model, The problem probably will go away for a while (Because you BLED the system) but give it a summer or two of driving in the heat and it will come back... Just because you have done the 'drill mod' or upgraded to some 01 parts does NOT mean that your pedal won't stick to the floor when the fluid gets hot and burnt...
And later on down the road, after you change out all these parts and the pedal sticks to the floor again, What do you replace then? Save some money for other mods and just bled your system real good...
And later on down the road, after you change out all these parts and the pedal sticks to the floor again, What do you replace then? Save some money for other mods and just bled your system real good...
Originally Posted by freakynipples69
not changing the clutch, just the master cylinder. I apperciate all the insight but all i want is an explenation on WHY it is neccessary to update the slave as well as the master for my dad.
So have daddy swap your slave cylinder.
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Originally Posted by crainholio
The '01+ slave is a revised design. The previous version was prone to hanging the clutch pedal on the floor during high rev shifting, just physically couldn't move fluid fast enough.
So have daddy swap your slave cylinder.
So have daddy swap your slave cylinder.
I do have one question though: If the slave on my car has all of these 'problems' moving the fluid and this causes the pedal to stick to the floor, Why did it NOT act stupid from day one? Why did the thing wait 20k miles to start messing up? Why did it only hang up when the car was hot?
And best of all: Why did the pedal problem go away when the fluid was flushed and system was bled?
I just sort of figured that if my slave was screwed, my problem should have remained no matter what I did to the fluid.
I can't really say for sure if the 01 slave is 'better' than others or not because I am NOT a GM engineer, but I know for sure that stuff like clutch fluid can and does get contaminated over time. High heat will speed this up.