Monster+quicktime=shim question!!
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Monster+quicktime=shim question!! So I spent hours yesterday measuring my clearance between the tob and pressure plate. And for a sanity check had 2 friends also come over and measure and they were getting the same result.
Monster stage 3, and quicktime housing with block plate. And yes I removed the slave spring while measuring, and I measure dozens of times with both calipers, and with a measuring tape and the results fell within the same general specs.
Tick states limits should be between .125-.200. Without shims I was sitting at over .500 (exact measurements are in garage but I just woke up and I am on a rant right now). So the only way I got the limits down to .200 was with using ALL 3 SHIMS from tick (.180,.113,.055).
Is this correct? Anyone ever have to use all 3 shims and get longer bolts to bolt the slave back up? According to my measurements and my buddy's we all came to the same damn conclusion. I'm shaking my head at the moment and hate that I have to wait until Monday to call monster/tick.
Anyone with useful Input/experience with this would be appreciated
Monster stage 3, and quicktime housing with block plate. And yes I removed the slave spring while measuring, and I measure dozens of times with both calipers, and with a measuring tape and the results fell within the same general specs.
Tick states limits should be between .125-.200. Without shims I was sitting at over .500 (exact measurements are in garage but I just woke up and I am on a rant right now). So the only way I got the limits down to .200 was with using ALL 3 SHIMS from tick (.180,.113,.055).
Is this correct? Anyone ever have to use all 3 shims and get longer bolts to bolt the slave back up? According to my measurements and my buddy's we all came to the same damn conclusion. I'm shaking my head at the moment and hate that I have to wait until Monday to call monster/tick.
Anyone with useful Input/experience with this would be appreciated
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Well I put the spring back on and measured with the throw out bearing bottomed out at the spring. With that measurement I got .426 after subtracting the two measurements.
So I figure with adding a .180 and .113 shim that adds up to .293
.426-.293 =.133 bearing clearance
So guess I'm sticking with doubling up the shims and longer slave bolts.
So I figure with adding a .180 and .113 shim that adds up to .293
.426-.293 =.133 bearing clearance
So guess I'm sticking with doubling up the shims and longer slave bolts.
It's always weird when you get measurements that don't make any sense or don't match up with "normal", but at some point, I think you gotta say you know you did it right, and you gotta trust your measurements.
If it helps, I'm only running 0.105" clearance on mine, even thought that is slightly "under" spec.
If it helps, I'm only running 0.105" clearance on mine, even thought that is slightly "under" spec.
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It's always weird when you get measurements that don't make any sense or don't match up with "normal", but at some point, I think you gotta say you know you did it right, and you gotta trust your measurements.
If it helps, I'm only running 0.105" clearance on mine, even thought that is slightly "under" spec.
If it helps, I'm only running 0.105" clearance on mine, even thought that is slightly "under" spec.
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Is your motor plate hitting the bolts on the engines rear cover? Maybe something wrong with the clutch itself. No way it should be that much off. Measure from the fingers on the pressure plate to the surface of the flywheel.
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Measurements should be from finger on pressure plate to the bellhousing surface, not to the flywheel like you stated. And then from throw out bearing bottomed out to transmission mounting housing
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This is a brand new motor build. Everything is flush the way it should be.
Measurements should be from finger on pressure plate to the bellhousing surface, not to the flywheel like you stated. And then from throw out bearing bottomed out to transmission mounting housing
Measurements should be from finger on pressure plate to the bellhousing surface, not to the flywheel like you stated. And then from throw out bearing bottomed out to transmission mounting housing
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Also the new gm slave we bought would travel further than the old ones we had. It would travel around .9 to .95 inches total vs the .75 of the other slave cylinders we had that were gm and Napa slaves.
I had an 8 inch mcleod twib disk with qt bellhousing. I didnt shim it, and when a pushed the clutch i had a metal on metal noise. I pulled tranny and flywheel was digging into the block plate about 1/16?deep about 2 inches long. I just angrily removed the plate and reassembled. Maybe i needed a shim or something.....my buddy did the assembly. Wont ket him touch my car again eitherway
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I just installed a new monster with tick master and mine needed slight shimming also. I just made my own shim out of washers which put it right where it needs to be. I'll let you know soon once I wrap everything else back up and try it out.
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