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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Hey guys.

I have a 2002 WS6 T/A with just over 4000miles on it. (bought it in June 02 with 9 miles, right off the truck. Paperwork was being processed before the dealer even got the car)

I've noticed that it always seemed rather particular with what gear it wanted when shifting. Some gears it would resist more than others. This seemed dependent on speed, and rpm mostly, but also a bit of randomness too, but I can't prove that.

It seems to be getting a bit more finicky now too. Today, at a 2-5mph roll from a stop sign, it wouldn't go into 2nd. This is new. Often when rolling slow it liked 2nd more than 1st.

I also find that unless I get the revs up high, it won't downshift. (this I thought was normal till a friend who has had manuals longer than I said it was odd - that every manual he's driven could be downshifted without any resistance or particular need for rev matching while the clutch was still disengaged)

1-2 is always rougher than any other transistion too for some reason. There's just a bit of roughness in the shifter lever (the feel of sliding it into gear) that isn't in the other gears.

I think that's everything. I'll have to take it out again tomorrow to make sure I got it all.

This is the first time I've driven it in the cooler weather like this, so I don't know if some of the new stuff is related to that (but I let it warm up before leaving the driveway or parking space).

Reading though here I was starting to wonder if it was clutch related (not disengaging), but why would it accept higher gears in that case?

Oh, sometimes while at a dead stop it won't go into first. I have to put it in neutral, let the clutch out, then push the pedal down again and try to put it in gear once more. Sometimes this takes a few tries.

My warranty is up in June. If I have issues I'd like to get them done under warranty if possible.

I have driven it a little hard but nothing too serious. I don't drag race, and I don't shift without fully pressing the clutch pedal, and I never force it to go into a gear when it's resisting.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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sounds like it could be hyd. related.. check to see if there is clear fluid comming from around the bell housing.. and see where your level is in the master...when my car was doing something like this it was a mix of a bad slave and LOOSE pressure plate.. I found if I "pumped" the cltuch (like if you had bad brakes) it would work fine..GM should fix this since you have low miles.. I think they go 12k for any wearable drivetrain thing ( not 100% sure though)
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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It doesn't really sound like Clutch issues to me.
Yoiu didn't mention if you had raced it or anything like that
those are low miles. to have much damage.
But sometimes they could just have started with bad parts.
I would take it to them and tell them the tranny is hosed. .
Let them fix it if you stil have warrenty.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Actually, he did say that he doesn't race the car. I agree with you that it doesn't sound like a clutch problem at all. Take that sucker to the dealer and make them fix it. If they try to tell you it's the clutch, make them show you the "bad" parts. (obviously, if you are not familiar with what a new clutch looks like, become so before hand so you can argue inteligently). If they _insist_ that it's the clutch and not the transmission, make them promise to refund your money for the entire repair if they are wrong and the problem persists after they "fix" it.

One last thing... Get started now! You don't want to get into an argument with them in April and have them drag their feet until after the warranty is expired. Even if you should still legally be covered, (which I have no idea, not being a lawer) you just don't need the headache of another argument on top of the one about the transmission.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Well, this is a disappointment. First problem I've had with anything from the General in a long time. And it sucks more to have it on a new car.

But better to find out now rather than later I guess. Thanks guys. I'll get it to them next month (Jan).
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