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Old 09-21-2005, 11:24 AM
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Ok I just replaced my clutch with a stage 2 and left the stock hydraulics in and everything worked great till one day it got harder to go into gears and eventually the clutch wouldn't disengage. So we replaced the slave and now it will go into gear but its very tough and when you press the clutch to the floor the tires still sping on the jack stands. We tried bleeding the hydraulics once and it got a little better. Is this a master cylinder issue or air in the hydraulic system? Any input is appreciated.
Old 09-21-2005, 12:55 PM
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more likely you still got air in the system, try to bleed more.
also check if the level of fluid is going down, if so, you have leak somewhere
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Could it be this spec shim for the slave? I didn't use it on my stock system and it worked fine. I dont wanna have to tear the whole car apart to find out the shim didnt matter lol I guess we will try bleeding it more.

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If you didn't use the shim, that could be one of your problems.That shim helps dissingage the clutch more. Also you could still have air in the hydrualic system . You might want to try and bleed the system first before you pull the trans out. Help this helps.
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Thanks guys unfortunately I have to pull the tranny again Ive bled the system 3 times same old stuff it wont disengage all the way so im pulling it all out again to shim it I hope this works lol.
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Great just put the shim in and bolted it all back toghether same crap car wont go into any gear without force I'm guess it's the notorious master cylinder now. This is a pain in the a$$ going on day 4 now
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Never was a fan of shims, rather have an adjustable master.
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Yes you have a slight problem,but imagine a cam install that went bad like the one I had and it taking 46 days to finally work out. You'll get it just keep trying.
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Man guys I just got the car back from the shop after having the hydraulic lines bled and its the same thing car will work fine for a couple minutes then it will be a pain in the a$$ to go into any gear and the clutdch wont disengage. When you hold the clutch the tires still spin im lost now replaced the slave cylinder, master cylinder, new fly wheel and spec stage 2 with the shim. Any help is appreciated
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Most definitely shims, I actually had to make more for mine because the one it came with wasn't enough.
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How many shims or what size was the customer one you used man? I used the shim it came with and its not releasing all the way? thanks
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I used the shim that came with it do i need to use like 2 or 3 of them? Or just get a custom one done? Thanks for the advice it makes perfectly good sense now that I think about it.
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im having similar problems with my spec 3. i swapped the slave cylinder but i didn't use the shims. it was fine for about 6 months. then the car wouldn't go into gear. i replaced the master and the slave and same prob. then i took it apart and the clutch disk wasn't broken or looked bad. i bled the damn thing so much i know its not that. could it be the shims?? any advice would help. im lost!!
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What is the purpose of a shim? I can try to ask a mechanic is I knew what a shim does for the transmission.
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Had the exact same problem with my 1st stage II. Ended sending it back to the person I bought it from. Had a bent disc, replaced whole unit and worked great. I think it was damaged durring shipping. Plastic shrink wrap had failed and let the disc slide around under the PP, and damaged it enough that it caused this same problem. But than again it might have been bad from the get go. I would try and send it back. Found all this out after I to left the shim out. And had to put it in which did not help. Also ended up pulling it once more to swap out the slave and then master which did not help. LIke I said new unit took care of it.
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Hey guys transam1998 was right I just added one more shim to the one I had already and it worked. It's sad I spoke to mechanics, service techs and f body performance shops and noone could recommend that.




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