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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperZ
I had mine for about 20k miles with a nitrous setup and 650hp turbo setup and it never slipped.I took it out due to tranny sway to auto.Maybe I just got one of the good ones.I had a regular stage3
Mine does just fine with 500+rwtq. Really helps when they're setup and installed properly lol
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperZ
all high performance clutches that are a single disk will have some chatter.It also depends on the driver.Get used to it and you shoudl be able to slip the clutch out low or high RPM without a lot of chatter.You have to be alot slower coming off the clutch.I had mine for about 20k miles with a nitrous setup and 650hp turbo setup and it never slipped.I took it out due to tranny sway to auto.Maybe I just got one of the good ones.I had a regular stage3
What hydrolics where you using?
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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And also i would like to add by saying that people realy give spec a bad name when their clutch goes out but it is due to inproper install fortunatly i had a tech at the goodyear i worked at do it and actualy did a great job for free.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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I just took my car for it's first drive with it's new spec stage 3 clutch and flywheel and it's new strange 12 bolt. I replaced all the hydrolics along with the clutch and installed it to GM'S specs as SPEC says to in their instructions. The clutch chatters pretty bad if I try to start off without giving it much gas but if I bring the RPM'S up a little bit it seems to do much better , so I'm thinking it just needs some miles put on it to break it in and hopefully it will settle down some. I certainly hope so anyway!
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Yes definitly needs miles on it. after i took it out and beat on it alittle bit it actualy was much smoother.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1amit
Yes definitly needs miles on it. after i took it out and beat on it alittle bit it actualy was much smoother.

allways wonder about the break in period for clutches as I can't see non street egal cars putting on 400+ miles to break in a clutch, especially drag cars.

any thoughts?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by oange ss
i bought a stage 2 several years ago, after the install i had a bad vibration around 1500 rpms, in nuetral or in gear..i called Spec and told them the situation,they basically said i was stupid and that a clutch wouldnt cause that kind of problem....i pulled the 50 mile clutch assy out, cut into little pieces with a torch and mailed it back to them....in a nutshell it can happen, get off his back....
I got a similar response.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kookamunga
allways wonder about the break in period for clutches as I can't see non street egal cars putting on 400+ miles to break in a clutch, especially drag cars.

any thoughts?
Mine got broken in during my burnout heating up the slicks, from there it's been 6700+ clutch dumps with no issues. From the lift to the trailer to the track.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Balance, balance, balance. Anyone that purchases any SPEC clutch....get that **** balanced before installing it. I believe this is where a lot of you guys have problems with them. Take the extra time and $50 and take it to a machine shop.

Install it correctly and break it in correctly. DO NOT SLIP it all durring the break in period.

I'm on my second SPEC 3 so far and love the clutch. My current one has 4k on it with absolutely no chatter and handles anything I throw at it. My last one had about 20k on it and was abused majorly. Anyone that buys one of these, take the time to get it balanced, install it correctly and break it in correctly and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeY2KZ
Balance, balance, balance. Anyone that purchases any SPEC clutch....get that **** balanced before installing it. I believe this is where a lot of you guys have problems with them. Take the extra time and $50 and take it to a machine shop.

Install it correctly and break it in correctly. DO NOT SLIP it all durring the break in period.

I'm on my second SPEC 3 so far and love the clutch. My current one has 4k on it with absolutely no chatter and handles anything I throw at it. My last one had about 20k on it and was abused majorly. Anyone that buys one of these, take the time to get it balanced, install it correctly and break it in correctly and you shouldn't have any problems.
once again I'm curious on how one would break in a clutch on thier non stret legal race cars? I an see a possibility with the road race guys but there are many more purpose buit drag cars and I wonder how they put 400+ miles on a clutch 1/4 mile at a time.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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I had the spec 3+. It chattered at first for about 200miles. When it broke in it felt great. Just like stock. Never slipped after about 6o-70 6500rpm nitrous dropps on slicks. My only problem was when i removed the trans to installed an auto. The clutch disc did look alittle worn. But it still felt the same as always,great.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Spec 5 requires no break in, it is a sintered iron disk. I love the Spec 5. I ran a Spec 2 for 40,000 miles. It is absolutely imperative with Spec's that you have a machine shop balance both the flywheel and pressure plate.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kookamunga
once again I'm curious on how one would break in a clutch on thier non stret legal race cars? I an see a possibility with the road race guys but there are many more purpose buit drag cars and I wonder how they put 400+ miles on a clutch 1/4 mile at a time.
Was I typing in another language before? My car did not get broken in on the street. It went from the lift to the trailer to the track. I did a little longer burn out than the norm and dumped the clutch at 6700 rpm and has never missed a beat. I pull 1.47 60ft.'s with stock springs and shocks
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6
Was I typing in another language before? My car did not get broken in on the street. It went from the lift to the trailer to the track. I did a little longer burn out than the norm and dumped the clutch at 6700 rpm and has never missed a beat. I pull 1.47 60ft.'s with stock springs and shocks
sorry I was just wondering if there was any long term issues. I was told that the Kevlar material needs to wear into the mating surface of the flywheel and clutch cover. those 1.47 60 footers at 6700 rpm are incredible dude. problem is my car is an Autox car so those 6700 rom clutch dumps don't usually occur unless I totaly frusrated or somthing lol. with our lmited shifting and reativly mild clutch aplications I hope everything works out ok.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Sounds like an install problem.....

Was this the aluminum flywheel?
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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you get what you pay for .... some people have good luck with spec but most stories i have herd were bad... i will never own a spec!
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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We would really like to hear which clutch you will be using with your new 700/800 rwhp FI set up, just out of curiosity.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyborg
Why? Because your stage 3 still chatters a bit with 4K on it ...Sorry to break it to you, but you have either picked the wrong hobby (high-performance modified cars) or you need to purchase a GM clutch if you want there to be absolutely no evidence of a high-performance aftermarket clutch in there.
i have no problem with the chatter, and due to not being able to talk face to face with everyone, i think this comment was misunderstood. he asked about chatter, and i said that mine does a bit. i actually want a bit more aggresive clutch, but being a daily for now, and hauling around the wife and kid, i was ordered the stage 3 and was expecting a little less chatter, not that it would completely go away.


Originally Posted by Cyborg
That has not been my personal experience with them, or of the other 20 or so LSX cars around me that all have been running Specs for several years, and yes have gone through clutches and talked to Spec and gotten reasonable rebuilds and excellent service
it was my personal experience, however, and i felt like it was something i should say. my situation was a little complicated, so i said that if anyone had any questions they could pm me and i would explain, and i have a couple of times so far. theyre customer service just wasnt what i thought it should be. if you want to discuss it, pm me and ill be glad to explain why, and what happened. i dunno, maybe theyre customer service is like theyre product, luck of the draw. when its good its good, and when its not its not, i guess i just caught the days that werent.

sorry for the hijack...

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Originally Posted by wolfy
3 or 3+ ? id hold off even longer...my stage 3 has probably 4k or more on it now, and it STILL chatters a bit. ill never deal with spec again. and theyre customer service wasnt as good as i had hoped...if youd like more info, you can pm me.
ps - im sorry if anyone thought that this comment by me meant that i wouldnt deal with them because the clutch chatters, i can se where someone could read it that way. the chattering and the dealing with spec was meant to be two separate comments...sorry for the confusion...
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