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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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so i started the clutch install thursday, today is saturday and when i started i was just about to replace the slave and stab the motor with the tranny... the tranny guide pins would not line up, the two bottom bolts would thread though.... with the two bottom bolts threaded the guide pins would not line up, im confused about this ?????? after wiggling it for about an hour i gave up as the two guide pins and the rest of the bolts would not line up and the bell housing and tranny still had a gap between the two. can anybody give me any insight to what could be wrong??? tomorrow im going to try to restab the tranny and see what happens. could i have maybe not lined the clutch up perfectly??? (my only explanation) please help me out, i feel like beating the **** out of the car! thanks -Josh

ps. any easy way to bleed the slave after everything is bolted up???
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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The slaves easy to bleed with the tranny installed. Pump pedal, crack bleeder, close bleeder, release pedal.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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sounds like ur clutch isnt lined up with ur pilot bearing! try lining it up again and go from there. i just put my transmission in and i didnt have those problems but i do know the slave clyinder is not going to make the dial pins line up!
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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thanks for the response guys, blackn2oss thats what i was thinking, tomorrow im going to take it apart realign the clutch and go from there, hopefully that works... i have had a bunch of problems in the past days and cant wait till its over with!
the good news, i have new rims/tires coming, cant wait to get those mounted ! haha later
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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hey man i hope u get it figured out if u have any more problems pm me and i will try my best to help u through it
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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thanks, will do. i appreciate it
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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im pretty sure youre clutch isnt line up hats why you tranny wont go in, i finished putting mine in tonight, and i always have that problem but thats cause my clutch didnt come with an alignment tool when i got it.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rollinna65
The slaves easy to bleed with the tranny installed. Pump pedal, crack bleeder, close bleeder, release pedal.

Where exactly is the bleeder? I don't recall seeing it.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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its above the line going into the slave clynder. a 1/4 rachet and a shallow well 11 mm socket is all u need to bleed it.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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mine didnt come with an alignment tool either. i had to buy a universal , but a budy of mine has the gear type alignment tool for our cars, so im going to try that tomorrow.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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^^i had the same problem. spent two hours trying to wiggle it and it would not go in. alligned the clutch again, and she slid right in.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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I amazes me sometime the lengths we will go through so we don't have to drop the tranny agian. I'm just happy i'm not the only one that will mess with it for hours instead of the 15 minutes to drop it fix the problem then put it back up and be done.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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I had to reach up there and turn the output shaft a little. And you absolutely need the alisnment tool. I hope you have a freind helping you. It makes it a whole lot easier.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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alright I have the same problem but I have alignment and it will go in no problem but the tranny will go in as far as the spines but it won't go any further why why why, I even went as far as turning over the motor to see if the input shaft was in and the whole thing spun. WTF I'm going to drop it and reinstall
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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finally finished it today! all i did was drop the tranny, used the correct alignment tool and tranny slid right in like u guys said. everything after that went smooth, thanks for the help guys. much appreciated PEACE out
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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no problem man glad to help any time
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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The best alignment tool is a stock input shaft

You think an F-body is hard I'm doing a Vette on a garage floor which is a complete pain in the ***.I thought they sucked enough on a lift.

As for bleeding the slave, don't unless it is 100% necessary.A new slave is bled at the factory.We never bleed a clutch after it's in a car, very hard to get all the air out.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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mityvac bleeder works awesome!! We tried to bleed my TA for over a hour...just had to much air in the line, used the mityvac bleeder and we were don in 15min.

Glad you got it all worked out. I had a buddie help me do my clutch, I would have been lost by myslef...
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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my dad helped me, car was done on jackstands too... would be easier on a lift for sure. i bled my slave, only took three times to get it. so it must have had oil in it from the factory. we will see how it feels once the thing is broken in. pedal engages a bit lower than my stock clutch.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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when i put my motor back in like a fool i left the trans in the car.we wiggled and pryed and finally got the bottom bolts in but it was in a bind and there was a big gap at the top.got pissed and went home.came back in the next day and it bolted right up.i will definitely drop the trans next time if there is one.glad to see you got her in.
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