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Old 10-24-2013, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
almost 120 traps is impressive.

best base model vette ever imo.
Agreed, with one minor change.

The high performance variants likely will wipe the floor with the Viper. Can't wait to see those hit the streets eventually.
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Like i said this car is on up there with the C6 Z06 and sorta the Zr1 (I was corrected on the Zr1 and misunderstood the power and performance of it) Guess all that extra weight isnt a big deal for the new Vette.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Like i said this car is on up there with the C6 Z06 and sorta the Zr1 (I was corrected on the Zr1 and misunderstood the power and performance of it) Guess all that extra weight isnt a big deal for the new Vette.
It's definitely not up to either of those levels, not stock at least. It should be able to be modded nicely though.

And I wouldn't consider an extra 100 pounds over the last base model to be all that much extra weight, although that makes it almost 200 pounds heavier than a C6ZO6. I'm sure some of that weight can be stripped out pretty easily too.
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Originally Posted by Colesitzy
There are a **** ton of error in my post and I can't correct them due to my ban. What my point was is that the viper is basically dead, due to it's main competitor being cheaper and as fast, if not faster.
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You weren't banned...you are on restricted status because there appears to be no clear connection between your brain and your fingers.

Oh, and if we're gonna talk hero drag strip runs, the C7 has a ways to go before it can catch even a 2008 Viper:

http://youtu.be/0kp0yjz2jI4
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
You weren't banned...you are on restricted status because there appears to be no clear connection between your brain and your fingers.

Oh, and if we're gonna talk hero drag strip runs, the C7 has a ways to go before it can catch even a 2008 Viper:
No offense Meents, I get your love for Vipers and can certainly appreciate the run you posted (Same as I can the 10.6x by ZR1s ), but what I have to say is...

If the Corvette guys claimed stock, then showed non-factory rubber and an aftermarket shifter - the thread would be littered with 1000 posts ranting on what is "Stock." I agree that the Viper in question can be considered "stock" by most comparisons. Just saying. And 32000 miles is probably right in the sweet spot for mileage - looking forward to more "hero" runs from the C7 when they reach that mileage and run with less than 1/2 tank fuel and 230lb driver. After all, it's not like the C7 has been at the track that long and it has already been faster than most naysayers.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
It's definitely not up to either of those levels, not stock at least. It should be able to be modded nicely though.

And I wouldn't consider an extra 100 pounds over the last base model to be all that much extra weight, although that makes it almost 200 pounds heavier than a C6ZO6. I'm sure some of that weight can be stripped out pretty easily too.
From Car and Driver and the a like they have gotten the C6Z06 completely stock from factory to run a 11.6-7 id say this car falls right there with it but also to that they have only gotten this car (C7) only to 12.2 if im not mistaken. IMO this car is almost as good as the C6Z, I would take the Z instead because it has a bigger motor but the accomplishments of this car thus far is insane Chevy has set the bar pretty high and the higher trim levels must be able to perform in comparison from what this car is achieving.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Manual or auto?
Automatic according to the original post on Corvetteforum.
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
No offense Meents, I get your love for Vipers and can certainly appreciate the run you posted (Same as I can the 10.6x by ZR1s ), but what I have to say is...

If the Corvette guys claimed stock, then showed non-factory rubber and an aftermarket shifter - the thread would be littered with 1000 posts ranting on what is "Stock." I agree that the Viper in question can be considered "stock" by most comparisons. Just saying. And 32000 miles is probably right in the sweet spot for mileage - looking forward to more "hero" runs from the C7 when they reach that mileage and run with less than 1/2 tank fuel and 230lb driver. After all, it's not like the C7 has been at the track that long and it has already been faster than most naysayers.
In the Viper world, we can't be that picky...there just aren't many out there, and far fewer are taken to the drag strip and flogged like that one was. Nitto Invos are not drag radials, and an MGW shifter's effect on ET is debatable. Oh, and if there's still beef with the "stock"-ness of that car, there's always Jamie Furman's:


Points noted, but Mr. Sitzberger's comment that the C7 is "as fast, if not faster" than a 2013/2014 Viper, which is 100 pounds lighter and 40HP/TQ up on the 2008 in that vid, is a bridge too far.

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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Agreed, with one minor change.

The HIGHER performance variants likely will wipe the floor with the Viper. Can't wait to see those hit the streets eventually.
i thought was already understood since GM has for at least while offered more powerful versions over base vettes.
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I'm curious to see what the c7's do with 5-10k miles on them once they loosen up a little bit, but hell, who's really going to keep it stock for that long AND drag race it too?

I give it another 2-3 weeks, and we'll see some low 11s out of it I'm sure. Granted, it'll be mineshaft air at Atco or MIR or Cecil, but still, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 10.9x either when we get -2000' DA there.
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At this rate a good converter,tires and a tune will get you low 11's and possible a 10.99 in "drag perfect" weather and a light driver.
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I just wonder what a good set of drag radials will do considering they are launching pretty softly with 19 or 20" wheels and still cutting 1.7 60' times. Figure a harder launch and you're looking at a nice 1.6 or maybe 1.5 and then who knows.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
In the Viper world, we can't be that picky...there just aren't many out there, and far fewer are taken to the drag strip and flogged like that one was. Nitto Invos are not drag radials, and an MGW shifter's effect on ET is debatable. Oh, and if there's still beef with the "stock"-ness of that car, there's always Jamie Furman's:

http://youtu.be/gTevFbLfm3g

Points noted, but Mr. Sitzberger's comment that the C7 is "as fast, if not faster" than a 2013/2014 Viper, which is 100 pounds lighter and 40HP/TQ up on the 2008 in that vid, is a bridge too far.
Them new Vipers are no joke and they look very mean too! The GTS is a huge step over the previous versions on the interior. I have never owned a Viper but from what I have been told they never really built it to have all the luxuries like the Vette till now it has always been built for the track. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.....
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Them new Vipers are no joke and they look very mean too! The GTS is a huge step over the previous versions on the interior. I have never owned a Viper but from what I have been told they never really built it to have all the luxuries like the Vette till now it has always been built for the track. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.....
That's pretty accurate...this go-around, they focused on creature comforts at the expense of a huge leap forward in performance. They tweaked the basic drivetrain from the 2008-2010 cars, put a pretty body on it, and gave it a way nicer interior with lots of electronic gizmos. I think people are hoping for a big performance increase for the next (hopefully) ACR variant, but who knows. SRT just doesn't have a huge budget to work with, and they aren't doing themselves any favors right now in the marketing department.
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I agree with Meents, just saying that the Vette forum would explode with other nutswingers calling "not stock" with those changes. Both of the passes you posted are fast and great to see from the SRT crowd.

I like to new Viper better inside and out than the new C7. It's just my personal opinion on the exhaust note that keeps me from considering one.
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Atco is great track...and is that Snortman? Long time no see.....
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Just got back from Royal Purple Raceway, a red C7 auto just ran an 11.67 @ 120, then went a 11.47 @ 121.9 (with just a tune), after I left. Temp was 65*. That is just sick!

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I give it about another week and we'll hear about a tune only car going 10s.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Originally Posted by "MAC"
Them new Vipers are no joke and they look very mean too! The GTS is a huge step over the previous versions on the interior. I have never owned a Viper but from what I have been told they never really built it to have all the luxuries like the Vette till now it has always been built for the track. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.....
That's pretty accurate...this go-around, they focused on creature comforts at the expense of a huge leap forward in performance. They tweaked the basic drivetrain from the 2008-2010 cars, put a pretty body on it, and gave it a way nicer interior with lots of electronic gizmos. I think people are hoping for a big performance increase for the next (hopefully) ACR variant, but who knows. SRT just doesn't have a huge budget to work with, and they aren't doing themselves any favors right now in the marketing department.
You cant tune these Vipers like you can the Corvette right? Fromy understanding you would have to get like a 2000model and below to be able to tune it.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
You cant tune these Vipers like you can the Corvette right? Fromy understanding you would have to get like a 2000model and below to be able to tune it.
Vipers up to 2006 can be tuned...it is the 2008-2010 and 2013-2014 cars that can't be tuned.


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