F15 Flying With 1 Wing
Saw this yesterday and sent the link to my dad who retired from the AF after 22 years and went out working the last 7 years as the Superintendent of Maintenace for the 116th at Dobbins. Here's the response I got back from him this afternoon....
We (the 116th) had an incident in the early '90's. Two of our F-15's collided with each other.....one crashed (pilot ejected and walked away....but another story by it's self) the other one made an emergency landing at Knoxville, TN. It lost 75% of the left wing, 100% of the left horizontal stabalizer, and 40% of the left vertical stabalizer and part of the left rudder. That took us about 4 months to make it flight worthy enough for one of our test pilots to fly it back to Dobbins and another +/- 6 months for the total repair.
We (the 116th) had an incident in the early '90's. Two of our F-15's collided with each other.....one crashed (pilot ejected and walked away....but another story by it's self) the other one made an emergency landing at Knoxville, TN. It lost 75% of the left wing, 100% of the left horizontal stabalizer, and 40% of the left vertical stabalizer and part of the left rudder. That took us about 4 months to make it flight worthy enough for one of our test pilots to fly it back to Dobbins and another +/- 6 months for the total repair.
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
Being only 10 min from langley afb.. Got a buddy that's a mech on the 22's.. said that plane sitting still on the runway can catch and pass a 15 flying on burn like it was standing still..
Yes the 22s are fast, but a lot of experts say its too fast to be a great fighter.
We'll see though. I love the 22s just cause they look increadible.
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Originally Posted by bdr_ws6
Yes the 22s are fast, but a lot of experts say its too fast to be a great fighter.
We'll see though. I love the 22s just cause they look increadible.
We'll see though. I love the 22s just cause they look increadible.
In the rather unlikely event another plane can find an F-22 and get close enough to it for a shot (much less even see it!), it's only going to be a few seconds before the Raptor turns the tables on it.
The real question is, can an F-22 fly with one wing? I doubt it.
Originally Posted by LTSpeed
Those experts obviously haven't seen it fly. I saw one "park" in the air totally motionless for 15 seconds, then just drop the nose and start flying again. I also saw the same plane do a backflip at 2000ft and turn 90 degrees coming out of it. Another one pulled off the tighest turn I've ever seen--way tighter than specially-built stunt planes.
In the rather unlikely event another plane can find an F-22 and get close enough to it for a shot (much less even see it!), it's only going to be a few seconds before the Raptor turns the tables on it.
The real question is, can an F-22 fly with one wing? I doubt it.
In the rather unlikely event another plane can find an F-22 and get close enough to it for a shot (much less even see it!), it's only going to be a few seconds before the Raptor turns the tables on it.
The real question is, can an F-22 fly with one wing? I doubt it.
And if the airplane is going fast enough it doesn't need wings. Basically the reason the F-15 with one wing survived was that it was going fast enough where the fusalage created enough lift, thus his landing speed of 260kts. The F-22A w/thrust vectoring would have an easier time in theory since it could go slower and maintain the same angle of attack.
Pics of 2 F-22A's at the EAA Fly In at Oshkosh. First aerial demonstration of the F-22A's in the world and it rocked:
Demonstrating slow flight, notice its angle of attack is basically zero degrees and it was crawling along at like 90 knots (estimated).
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Originally Posted by bdr_ws6
I wish I could go to Oshkosh. I love air planes, especially old WWII ones.
i forgot where i read it but it was pretty recent just a couple weaks ago.
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Originally Posted by StoleIt
Did you happen to go to Oshkosh too? Thats exactly what the two there were doing. Friggin amazing.
And if the airplane is going fast enough it doesn't need wings. Basically the reason the F-15 with one wing survived was that it was going fast enough where the fusalage created enough lift, thus his landing speed of 260kts. The F-22A w/thrust vectoring would have an easier time in theory since it could go slower and maintain the same angle of attack.
And if the airplane is going fast enough it doesn't need wings. Basically the reason the F-15 with one wing survived was that it was going fast enough where the fusalage created enough lift, thus his landing speed of 260kts. The F-22A w/thrust vectoring would have an easier time in theory since it could go slower and maintain the same angle of attack.
My reservations with the F-22 pulling off a 1-wing flight isn't based on aerodynamics--your theory is 100% right--it's totally about the immature flight control system. I'm sure it will grow to handle such scenarios, but it's not there yet. (It's normal for software to be upgraded to handle odd "failure modes" over the life of modern aircraft. The F-16, for example, is a very different and safer bird now than it was 20 years ago.)
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Originally Posted by 1999 SS
i heard some invester types are getting together to start building copies of single and double seat fighter planes from WWII for private sale to indaviduals.
i forgot where i read it but it was pretty recent just a couple weaks ago.
i forgot where i read it but it was pretty recent just a couple weaks ago.
Copies....you mean repilcas? Are they complete with engines or just air frames? I say they will been expensive either way. If I had the cash I would most definently get a P-51D Mustang.