Hey guys, sorry to post this here- anyone know him? He PMed me on Wedensday on LS2GTO.com saying he had an oil pan for my car. After several PM's back and forth, I sent him payment- at which point he has yet to respond to any of my emails, IM's and only one PM. I know it isn't a long period of time since payment was made, but he was very quick to respond prior and since I have only gotten one response from him, and that was after threatening to post a beware post. I sincerely hope it is a misunderstanding, but I have seen him several times on AIM, he is reading all my PM's and has been on here several times in between with no replies. It takes 3 seconds to reply and keep me up to speed, but he just ignores me- that would make any buyer nervous. He did say "go ahead and post it and you'll get plenty of positive replies about me"- I hope so, if not- there will be bigger problems. Thanks for your time.
Joe

 

Try Pming him on LS2.COM

http://www.ls2.com/forums/member.php...fo&userid=1092

 

That is where it went unanswered since I sent payment, I had to come here to PM him in order to get a reply. He said it shipped today- but it was shipped after I asked for a refund. He may be a good guy, I don't know- but this is ridiculous. He tried to turn it around on me and say I "dragged my feet for 5 days to pay him"- huh, funny, I have PM's to prove I paid within one day of our first conversation- and that was only because I was waiting on him to send pictures, it would have been sooner.

The whole deal just seems a bit shady to me. He also said "I told you that you would have it by Tuesday, and you will"- but the tracking info shows an ETA for Thursday- completely screwing me with my plans to have the car done and tuned for the weekend. All I asked of him was an honest answer and a reply, I needed to know when to expect this because it is holding me up, I told him that I couldn't afford to go ignored- yet, he continued to do so and did not ship until after a paypal complaint was filed and a PM, IM and email sent requesting a refund because I found the item from a more reliable source. Now he ships it and screws me more. Oh well, if others learn from this, then it's good I guess..

Sam, Josh, whatever your name is- all I asked from the start is for a reply- how dare you email me and try to turn it around on me. As I mentioned, I have every PM, email, IM and the paypal records to prove I was ignored and in the right here. Hell, I even have screen shots of you being online on both AIM and here after PM's were sent requesting a reply so I know what is going on (and refund requests PRIOR to you shipping it) and read-receipts for PM's that went unanswered. You have some nerve shipping it AFTER I requested a refund only to turn it around on me with your "I will not refund your money until I get my part back"- childish at best. Heh, I would not be surprised to get a box of rocks at this point...
Joe

PS- once I receive the item and it is in the condition it was "sold" to me as, I will gladly post that also. I will also gladly retract all this and apologize if I am proven wrong here, however, I have the proof otherwise.

 

I hope you are happy with your oil pan when you get it and decide to retract your claim on Paypal.

I think this is all funny really...You are flipping out cause I didnt send something over the WEEKEND! How am I going to do that?
You paid me on a Wednesday late I waited till it cleared my paypal and sent it out on Monday paid $55 to have 3 day air.You paid $10 for shipping.
I dont send anything out with paypal untill it clears my end.

You are making a big deal about something that is on it way to you and I was told it would be there on "Wed" when I left Fedex.I could have paid $92 and had it there on "Tuesday" but getting that money from you would be a problem.
You first replied to my pm I sent on Tuesday the 3rd.You sent the money on the 5th at 8 pm...It didnt clear till Friday at 8 And I cant send anything out over the weekend.

You are trying to make it look like you got screwed but the pan is on its way and was scheduled to be there on Wednesday through Fedex when I shipped it.I dropped it off at 12 yesterday NOT after you tried to get your money back...this after I TOLD YOU it would be there on TIME!
That one message is not good enough for you...how many times did I need to tell you it would be there?

Also let me know if you plan on sending me a message on AIM cause I dont accept messages from anyone not on my list...I dont even get a request for a message.
The whole time you were trying to talk to me via aim you were wasting your time.I asked you what name you were using so I could add it to my list and recieve messages....you never told me it.

 

Why don't you send each other fone numbers and stay in touch. Buyer sounds a little impatient unless Sam agreed to send the pan out last week.

ADMIN

 

Thats all I need is this guy calling me everyday.

I agreed to have the pan to him on time...Never told him I would send it out a specific day.

 

Hmm, your PM specifically states "I will ship it same day if I get payment early enough", so you got it Thursday evening along with the note that I need it by Tuesday and did not ship it until Monday. You know from the start, quit trying to twist things. PSJ- I understand your point, but you were not part of our original discussions, nor did you see the unreplied, ignored PM's, IM's, etc. Yes, I was impatient- but that was because I said from the start I need it by Tuesday. I have plenty of patience normally, it is just that this person replied to every PM in a timely manner ASAP prior to me paying him- once I paid him (even said "let me know if I owe you more" in the payment note), I did not hear back from him for several days- far from the "I'll ship it same day" that I was told originally.

Trust me, I would have no reason to call you constantly, I just would have wanted to know a status and not go ignored. If you were not aroudn for the weekend, I would have been cool with that- but you should have told me "I can't ship it until Monday" then and not just ignored all my PM's (yes, you were online, and you DID get them, just chose not to answer.

As I said on LS2gto, you sure have a way of twisting words to look like you are the good guy- yet, I have the actual messages between us, the paypal records, the ignored IM's, PM's, etc. to show otherwise.

 

Heh- "I agreed to have the pan on time to him"- that's why it is coming on Thursday and not the agreed upon date. You dragged your feet and you know it- which is perfectly fine, hell I have days I don't feel like doing **** also- but you needed to keep me informed as you know I needed it by a certain time. When I see you reading my PM's but you don't reply and I find one elsewhere that I know I can get next day without issue, what do you epect me to do, just say "ahh, maybe he's not screwing me" or "****, I need this thing- he'd better f'ing reply so I know what is going on"?
Joe

 

You're just way to impatient dude. Chill the freak out man. Hell if I knew you were blowing my PM's up, Id have refunded your money and told you to buy else where. Some people have priorities and engagements like full time jobs that hinders there schedules to only certain time periods of day. Understand that, and you will make a great buyer and seller one day.

 

So you needed the oil pan by today for an install? Where was it shipping from, and going to? Was it agreed that it would shop 2nd day?

 

When you get the pan send it back im done playing this game with you man.
You are making 3 days 2 of which were Saturday and Sunday sound as if it were 3 weeks.
You told me at the last minute to have it to you by Tuesday/Wednesday when I sent it out via Fedex I paid for 3 day air so it would be there on WEDNESDAY..I cant help it that it shows a day late..I LOST $40 ON THIS IN SHIPPING trying to make you happy.
Im glad we aint sleeping together id never reach your standards.

 

The date that he needed it there was never talked about UNTIL he sent the money..that was Wednesday night I didnt read that part of the message till Friday afternoon.I didnt think there were specifics about it..he send me a message on Friday on ls2gto asking if I read the part about it getting to him on Tuesday...I couldnt do anything about it till Monday...Two day air was going to cost me $90somthing.
It is going from Dallas to Milford Pa.
He paid $15 for shipping or close to that...not $50.57 what it cost me.

 

Yes, BUT- YOU said it would go same day as payment (which, I assumed would be Friday since I paid Thursday evening), which is why in the PayPal, I reiterated that I needed it by a certain time and would be willing to pay extra shipping if necessary, I can put the screen shot of my paypal to you up here if you'd like.

The problem isn't so much the time frame as it is your ignoring my PM's- of course I'm going to panic- when you say it will go out same day and I pay you and never hear back and it doesn't go out, what am I supposed to think? Like I said, the whole problem here is your lack of communication (don't give me the work BS, you were here browsing the boards and reading PM's, you just chose to ignore me until I escalated things) and your flat out lies- "I told you you'd have it Tuesday, and you will" after shipping followed by- "they told me you'd have it Weds when I shipped it", the "I can't get IM's if I don't add you"- BS, it would not show me your screen name online if you had it set up like that. As I have said numerous times, the only problem was you. I sent you a PM saying "if it isn't possible, just let me know so I can make other arrangements" which you read and STILL DID NOT ANSWER- what was I to expect???? I never said I wanted to buy a cheaper one as you accused me of- hell I would have bought both if I had to in order to get one here on time, I never said anything about not wanting it until 3 days after sending payment and being ignored.

You resort to the generic "internet excuses" for everything here- like I said bud, I have been dealing online for 12 years now and have run an online business for about 10, so you can't BS me- I just asked for you to be honest from the start, not feed me BS. I have no time or tolerance for that. Hell, you can ask others who I hav ebought from, I have patiently waited weeks for items due to their scheudule with no problems whatsoever- because they kept me INFORMED of what was going on.

I'm not here to start **** for no reason, fact is it took all this just to get a response from you in the first place- how's that look to me as a buyer????

You keep bringing up what it cost you to ship- firstly if you shipped it when you said you would, you wouldn't have to express anything and secondly- I have stated both through IM's before all this happened and publicly since- if it costs extra to get it on time, I would gladly pay the difference. Don't play the "look I am giving him something for nothing" card bud, you don't hold it....

Also, here you go lying again "I didn't read that part of the message until Friday afternoon"- you told me you didn't see that until Saturday. Did you ever think that if MAYBE you kept your story straight from the start, me- the BUYER, would not have had reason to be concerned?

I am not unreasonable- I understand that you could not do anything and this may just be a misunderstanding- BUT- you have not said the same thing twice- it changes every time AND you just said you read that Friday, but couldn't do anything about it until Monday- did you maybe think to LET ME KNOW THIS THEN???? You see what I mean- you either BSed your way through things or just flat out did not answer- what was I to assume...

I just hope you actually sent the pan and not some box of broken parts with a "**** you note"- if that is the case, I have no reason not to let people know that you came through. However, you need to work on your "customer service" skills a bit..
Joe

 

There was no agreed shipping method, which was my fault also. I told him Tuesday, but Wedensday at the latest so I can get this done. It is my fault for assuming when he said "I'll ship it same day", that he actually would. Since I ASSUMED it would be shipping same day (since he said it would be), I told him to ship it whatever means necessary to get it here to me by then and I would gladly pay extra if necessary- I got no response to that or any notification that it did in fact ship same day. He admits here that he read stuff, but did not reply- again, how does that look to the buyer? I can show all the PM's prior to payment- he replied within an hour at the most, immediately after payment, I did not hear back until Monday- AFTER I started stirring the pot- once more- how does that look to the buyer? If indeed it was because he was "at work", "away for the weekend", whatever excuse he uses at the time, I would not care one bit- but the fact that he got all the messages and chose not to reply makes it look fishy at the time. He could be the nicest guy in the world and have the best intentions, but if he does not let me know that, how I am supposed to know what is going on??

Thanks for the reply.
Joe

 

Dude, chill out. You're going to pop a top over a fairly small issue.

 

I hope he dont pop a top in the box then send it back to me.

I not going to internet argue with you any longer Joe.
Please stop sending me emails and Pm's on other boards saying the same thing I have replied to on here.

 

I have to admit- I don't care who you are- that was pretty funny .

Now you know this isn't true though- I haven't PM'ed, emailed, IMed, anything since yesterday afternoon when I finally found out what was going on. Again, I have them all here still- it isn't nearly as many as you are playing it off to be, just mostly friendly inquiries until they went unanswered.


I agree, it is just turning into "he said- he said" crap now. I'll let everybody know when it comes in and, as I said all along, if you need extra for the shipping- just let me know. I am not looking for something for nothing. Just to let you know, in all my years dealing online- this is my first time EVER posting anything like this, so I apparently had my reasons . Hopefully it gets here early enough on Thursday so that I can get my car together and up to the tuners- I gotta get this damn thing to the track this weeekend and have some fun, after all- isn't that what this hobby is all about ?
Joe

 

Not going to bother replying about this issue any longer until the part comes in, but I have to tell you- the wife and I got a kick out of your signature .
Joe

 

As I said I would do- I am updating to let you know that the pan showed up. Apparently, whoever you spoke with at Fed Ex knew more than their tracking system, which showed Thursday 4:30 as an ETA.

Now, you know as well as I do that the only reason it cost $50 to ship is because you did not ship it "same day" as you said you would. I will be more than happy to reimburse you whatever you think is fair in additional shipping, as I said several times. We both know that it would not have been $50 if shipped on Friday as you said it would to get here the same time. Let me know what is fair for the difference and I'll paypal it over to you.
Joe

 

You got the pan....No post about it?
You dont have anything to say now?
It was delivered on Wednesday at 10 AM and you dont have time now to make things right?