LOL...who are you to call him dumb? Just because he doesn't share the same ideas and beliefs as you? My car is an everyday driven street car, and I am planning on removing the TCS and maybe the ABS as well. Its all about weight. Every pound counts.

 

First off I didnt call him dumb, but IMHO on a street car the idea is dumb... And its MY OPINION... Like I said in a later post whatever floats your boat, its YOUR car! The way I see it is if you drive this car every day get out of the stoneage and have things like Air conditioning and ABS, and save the race car stuff for a race track. Its like when I had a thirdgen, as soon as my A/C crapped out everyone said "just cut the belt off it slows the car down" ... Well I dont want to cut the belt off I have to drive the damn car to work every day so A/C is important... I drive in traffic, as there is traffic practically everwhere, ABS makes life easier... No I never wrecked a car on ice I've saved it myself, but the ABS makes it easier its nice to have. So MY OPINION is that its a fairly new car why take all that out and IN MY OPINION screw it up... The weekend is better spent installing headers or something.

Oh and no offense but if every pound counts, then take out your interior, taking out 5lbs of traction control stuff is not gonna drop your ET, its a LOT of work and time to save .00001 second on the clock. You wanna go faster, bust into your motor, program your computer, get a turbo or a supercharger or a bottle of juice... dont waste your time taking stuff out of your car that if some day your life situation changes and you have to sell the car will make it completely unattractive to everyone. If its a straight out track car, then cut away, but if its a street car, what a waste.... Plus I have a lot more respect for someone who can drive to the track with the A/C on and the radio pumpin and bust off some high 11's and drive it home (my old 89 TTA could do that... I miss that car). Maybe I'm just someone who plans ahead but you never know what can happen tomorrow, everyone plans on keeping their car forever, but sometimes life just doesnt happen that way.

Just MY OPINION....

 

ABS let's you be a sloppier driver.
TCS let's you be a sloppier driver.

If that's what you want, all the power to you. Take the trend to it's extreme, and eventually people won't be driving cars anymore, they'll be 100% computer controlled. Don't think that's ever going to be possible? Well, IMHO THAT is what's dumb. In the end, I doubt there is anything any of us can do to prevent it, but I'm certainly going to resist it as much as possible.

One of the best parts of the driving experience for me is the challenge of handling all that power, and pushing it as far as I can without pushing it too far. ABS, TCS, they start taking away some of that challenge. I hate when my ABS engages because it doesn't give ME the opportunity to recover. It doesn't give ME the experience of recovering. Ditto with TCS, which I gladly don't have. This is the primary reason I own this kind of car. ABS and TCS doesn't make me a better driver. In fact, it allows me to be a worse driver. Now why on earth would I ever want that?

 

I agree, it is impressive to drive to the track with the A/C and radio and click off an 11. Hell, I'm doing that but with 10's, and hopefully 9's by the start of next year.

Every pound counts, whether you think so or not. If you take out that 5lbs, then thats 5lbs of weight you didn't have before. After a while, it all adds up. And as far as interior goes, all I'll take out is the passenger seat and rear seats. IMO, no carpet or panels looks too bare.

But point is, there is no need to call his ideas dumb just because you dont agree with them. Its his car, his decision.

Sorry shawn for getting off track with your post.

And jRaskell, I agree.

 

Ive owned and driven a LOT of cars in my life and trust me, these cars are plenty out of control enough even with that stuff. Bside the fact the point Im trying to get across is I would rather have a little bit of help especially after Im groggy after a long day at work then to smack up one of my most prized posessions. You want challenge, hit a drag strip, a track day, an autocross, or a deserted winding road on the weekend. You wanna save your car from a skid, click the TCS off and drive like that if it floats you boat. ABS I noticed only engages in the most extreme of situations, so if it bothers you that often maybe you should slow down .

 

Yeah every pound counts when you have a race car, but what I mean was its much easier to take out a passenger seat, than to take out the ABS or TCS system... AND its much easier to put back when you need to/grow out of it/want to sell it/etc.

and yes shawn I apologize too!

 

So when your son gets the car, and he's out gunning it, around corners, and such.. and he goes to brake.. BUT WAIT... NO ABS. ****! TIRE LOCK UP!!! ****!!!! TREE!!!

Car totalled... Son [possibly] dead...

Nice gift, dad. Nice gift.

.. this happend in my non-ABS thirdgen. No tree was involved, but It was damn close. The speed limit sign that I hit stopped me. Car of course wasn't totalled, because it's American muscle... A couple friends were in the car, too.

Don't lose the ABS just because you "won't need it"

 

Don't worry yourself there ACE, by the time he gets the car (30 years) it won't be street legal anyway

 

I bought a new Throttle Cable for 10 bucks brand new but i got a discount Im removing it from the engine bay.Now the cruise control is going to .Its going to my edit guy who is a sponser Speartech does a great job.Since its getting a cam and im cleaning the engine bay up for shows it all works EGR was removed the day I got it But I have every bit of it to go right back on if I want to return the car to stock Go for it those slp deals are junk I never liked mine so Im making it better

 

Get an oldschool'!

 

Each to his own, but that was also my thought, smokinLS6. Get a 69 Camaro and you'll have no TC, EGR, ABS, and a carb. I've driven 60's Pontiacs as daily drivers plenty over the past 15 years, and as much as I like them, you can't beat the way our LS1s run and handle with EFI, ABS, etc.

 

Whats the Part#

 

How hard is it to take 3seconds out of the trip and turn the dang button off? Not too hard IMO.

 

You know, I hate starting stuff with other people but I have to put my $.02 in here Black Mamba. This is now the 3 thread that Ive seen you post in that has absolutly no help to the OP's question. All you do is give smart *** answers that no one could care about and or you start **** with people, like chocotaco off the top of my head. Im sorry but you are no help to any threads that I have run across with you posting in it. I even posted something the other day that all you added and helped to the thread was this ( ) after my comment. Seriously stop being an idiot, help people out instead of just throwing in an ******* comment like the one above. If the OP wanted to ask the question about his TCS delete, let him. So go watch Kill Bill 1 and 2 again or post some decent comments. I dont want to **** you off and flame back at me I just am tired of seeing negativity from you. Sorry.

 

i must be lucky *(or have a short to ground somewhere),,mine is automaticly off when i start the car,,and i cant turn it on, it just stays off.

 

Wow I wasnt about to read all those long *** posts I removed abs from my car. It stops even better now. I also added a line lock while I was at it. I deleted tc as well. It isnt too hard really. We are soon to remove it from my bros car as well. I agree with having a nice clean engine bay. I dont have a carb...either
If you want to know what all is involved Shawn just shoot me a pm.

 

Here are a few pics of my engine bay. I havent installed any of my polished parts yet so it is kinda dirty looking. I will have the lid on it when I get my sunoco hood installed as well. But I have removed ac, egr, air, cruise, tc, abs, etc

 

here's mine,,,i would love to remove that TCS crap...i shot ya a pm..

 

5 min install tops.

1. pull off center vent cover
2. unplug TCS
3. Plug in SLP module
4. Plug in other end to TCS
5. Push cover back on.
Not sure what to call the HVAC pannle

 

I'd love to remove the cruise control from my car.