Hey I'm considering getting rid of the LT4 for an LS1 car. However this is what I've been told from an LS1 owener..... Here are his e-mails word for word. He has an 01 WS6 vert

Email #1
K&n air filter, Mac Headers , Borla Exhaust, granatelli cool air lid and mass airflow sensor, ASP underdriver pulleys, hypertech power programmer..altogether 425hp flywheel 390hp rear wheels...... 12.90 at 119mph

Email #2
Do you really think that an average driver with a stock ls1 will run a 13.1?? Try about a 14.0 a professional driver can only get a 13.1 on the best of days. You obviously know nothing for me to get anyuwhere the near 12's I'd have to get a torque converter like vigilante to pick up .5 sec's in the 1/4......to get an ls1 to do 11's you need NOS

UMMMMMMMM YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

What do you guys think? Does this guy know his stuff or what

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Email #1
K&n air filter, Mac Headers , Borla Exhaust, granatelli cool air lid and mass airflow sensor, ASP underdriver pulleys, hypertech power programmer..altogether 425hp flywheel 390hp rear wheels...... 12.90 at 119mph </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With just those mods!? ...390rwhp MY AZZ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Email #2
Do you really think that an average driver with a stock ls1 will run a 13.1?? Try about a 14.0 a professional driver can only get a 13.1 on the best of days. You obviously know nothing for me to get anyuwhere the near 12's I'd have to get a torque converter like vigilante to pick up .5 sec's in the 1/4......to get an ls1 to do 11's you need NOS
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What a wierdo! He's obviously never visited this site. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ February 28, 2003, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: MOBE ]</small>

 

No - he doesn't. For an auto LS1, getting a low 13-sec pass, assuming traction, is a no brainer for a stock car. M6 does require shifting skill, but low 13s still achievable even for not highly skilled drivers. Have been a rare freak that could run a 12 stock.

To get an 11-sec pass: Auto car only needs converter and a few bolt-ons (many on this board have done it). A manual usually requires a bit more, but still nothing huge.

Do you need NOS for an 11? Well, nitrous (NOS is a brand name, thanks Fast and the Furious) with a bolt on auto is 10s. We have heads and cam cars deep into the 10s now, including some 6 speeds.

 

Who ever sent you that e-mail is a bullshitter, plain and simple.

You would be shocked at just how many LS1s have hit 13.1X in stock form or better.

A good friend of mine went 12.9 @107 with a '02 WS6 A4 that only had 2000 miles on the motor at the time. Granted, it was the perfect weather, but still, he's certainly not a pro race car driver and the car was bone stock.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MongooseLT4:
<strong> Hey I'm considering getting rid of the LT4 for an LS1 car. However this is what I've been told from an LS1 owener..... Here are his e-mails word for word. He has an 01 WS6 vert

Email #1
K&n air filter, Mac Headers , Borla Exhaust, granatelli cool air lid and mass airflow sensor, ASP underdriver pulleys, hypertech power programmer..altogether 425hp flywheel 390hp rear wheels...... 12.90 at 119mph

Email #2
Do you really think that an average driver with a stock ls1 will run a 13.1?? Try about a 14.0 a professional driver can only get a 13.1 on the best of days. You obviously know nothing for me to get anyuwhere the near 12's I'd have to get a torque converter like vigilante to pick up .5 sec's in the 1/4......to get an ls1 to do 11's you need NOS

UMMMMMMMM YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />


What do you guys think? Does this guy know his stuff or what </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">wow that those emails just made be stupider....

cat-back is personal preference.. perf gains minimal... stock LS1 running 14.0s??? maybe if it's an M6 and I'm driving! GMAF not worth the money, 425 flywheel, 390 rear ... um 425x=390 = 8% loss through drivetrain... yea... right <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> and a stock cam, head car making 390 rwhp? LOL

please tell us this guys email address <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> or ask him to post on the board to back up his statements (my guess he drives a 17 second civic and thinks THAT's fast)

 

Do you really think that an average driver with a stock ls1 will run a 13.1??

This makes me fill a lot better now... HAHAHA <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

 

hmmm wonder if I'm below average now? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

<small>[ March 01, 2003, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: Villain281H ]</small>

 

a 12.9@119 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

 

BIG TIME <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

 

13.11 at 106 in a bascally 'stock' Formula
That was with 1000 on the clock.
(see sig)

 

I've gone 13.2@107 mph stock. I'm certainly no wizard with a 6sp. I used to be skeptical of stock 12 sec times but I have to admit with the right conditions and experienced driver it's certainly possible. Those emails are obviously bs or the bozo who wrote them has no idea how to drive so I wouldn't put much stock in what he has to say.

 

I went 13.9 when my TA was stock my second time ever at a dragstrip, in the gawd-awful Florida summer heat.

 

14.0's are common for stock ls1's. At Denver. Closer to sea level they run easy low 13's and many have hit 12's. Hell I ran a 12.65@110 with just a lid,cat back and gmaf. I'm much quicker now and within 2 months will destroy my old best with my bolt on Formula <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Well at least he's selling the LS1 & prolley getting something more his speed like a honda civic!

 

I averaged 13.6-13.8 before adding gears and some driving experience. I hit 13.1x several times after installing gears and a B&M Ripper.

I could probably hit low 12's now with the recent modifications. I could go for high 11's if not for the stock 10 bolt. I only average 2.0 60' times to preserve the rear since I blew it up last year.