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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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The rule of thumb is remove 2* for every 50HP of N2O, (150HP = minus 6*). Personally, I would get the capability to monitor and make ajustments yourself, HP Tuners, EFI Live, LS1 Edit, etc. You can change your N2O tune back to N/A tune at a moments notice. Do you have a wideband guage? If your going to get more Extreme in the future, this would be very helpful to fine tune your ride. Good Luck!
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The rule of thumb is remove 2* for every 50HP of N2O, (150HP = minus 6*). Personally, I would get the capability to monitor and make ajustments yourself, HP Tuners, EFI Live, LS1 Edit, etc. You can change your N2O tune back to N/A tune at a moments notice. Do you have a wideband guage? If your going to get more Extreme in the future, this would be very helpful to fine tune your ride. Good Luck!
i do have a friend with hp tuners with a license for the year 2002 which i have... so he can do like a nitrous tune for me??
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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He should be able to. If you are going to run the juice, you should invest in a tuning devise and a wideband, (Innovate, etc). You can't dial in without it. I switch back and fourth as the 6*-8* I remove kills the regular tune's HP in regular mode. When the NX is dialed, it's a rush!! I've got the MPVI Pro with real time tuning. It was well worth the investment. You can watch the knock retard closely not to get in trouble and you can record everything you do, make a change and do it again, instantly. It takes a bit to get use to, but I bet your friend can help you if you run into a snag. Good luck, Happy New Year!
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 382ssz28
He should be able to. If you are going to run the juice, you should invest in a tuning devise and a wideband, (Innovate, etc). You can't dial in without it. I switch back and fourth as the 6*-8* I remove kills the regular tune's HP in regular mode. When the NX is dialed, it's a rush!! I've got the MPVI Pro with real time tuning. It was well worth the investment. You can watch the knock retard closely not to get in trouble and you can record everything you do, make a change and do it again, instantly. It takes a bit to get use to, but I bet your friend can help you if you run into a snag. Good luck, Happy New Year!
yeah thats another investment i need to make is a good wideband... i appreciate the help
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I'm now running a conservative nitrous tune w/ 4 degrees pulled for a 150 wet shot. Call it a freak occurence, but on the dyno compared to a previous run w/ a NA tune, I only lost 3hp w/ the timing pulled. Not a bad sacrifice to be on the safe side if you ask me.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kc533
I'm now running a conservative nitrous tune w/ 4 degrees pulled for a 150 wet shot. Call it a freak occurence, but on the dyno compared to a previous run w/ a NA tune, I only lost 3hp w/ the timing pulled. Not a bad sacrifice to be on the safe side if you ask me.
no thats not bad at all
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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I would pull 2 waterheads per 75 hp.. or **** it and spray it.. thats what I did, but I never went over a 125...
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I would pull 2 waterheads per 75 hp.. or **** it and spray it.. thats what I did, but I never went over a 125...
never over 125 mmmhmmmm
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ok newbi here too, so all you guys said pull 4 or ? deg's for a 150 shot, what should the timing be set at?????..my tuner set mine up @ 26*..i'm shooting 100 shot now.....but i want 150 shot, so my retard timing should be what?????
also my car only has 42k miles, can i use my stock fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by geovett
ok newbi here too, so all you guys said pull 4 or ? deg's for a 150 shot, what should the timing be set at?????..my tuner set mine up @ 26*..i'm shooting 100 shot now.....but i want 150 shot, so my retard timing should be what?????
also my car only has 42k miles, can i use my stock fuel pump?
depends on what is done to your car. i personally don't enjoy pushing a stock pump as it's just that. Stock. not intended for much beyond that. timing is also relative to each car. As stated a good rule of thumb is 2 degrees for every 50hp sprayed. It will keep you safe and out of trouble most of the time.
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^^^^^^OK, thx's!!!!!!
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my cars got the racetronics kit and 42 lb injectors

Originally Posted by Psychopjv
depends on what is done to your car. i personally don't enjoy pushing a stock pump as it's just that. Stock. not intended for much beyond that. timing is also relative to each car. As stated a good rule of thumb is 2 degrees for every 50hp sprayed. It will keep you safe and out of trouble most of the time.
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
never over 125 mmmhmmmm
never... 125 just one at the track and I went slower more spinning
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if ur a hustler than u should be able to do what ever shot u want ?
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