Dry Direct Port Question
I have no issue with doing a dry directport. I just feel if you are not going to do it right why even go directport in the first place.
Yes running a different coldness plug in a cylinder can alter the burn rate compared to another. That is one of those things you only want to do if you are at a race and have no other option. Its a band aid fix.
I have no issue with doing a dry directport. I just feel if you are not going to do it right why even go directport in the first place.
I have no issue with doing a dry directport. I just feel if you are not going to do it right why even go directport in the first place.
I'm right there with ya. Just because I have a dry set up I dont try to get everyone to do the same, Fact is there is ALOT more info out there for wet set ups then there is for Dry.
We went just as fast with Shiz's plate kit as we have with my Dry set up.
Bottom line is when you start stepping on it your tune up better be right wether its wet or dry.
Back to Dave vs. Robert
Not saying I would do it but it does effect cyl temps.
I'm right there with ya. Just because I have a dry set up I dont try to get everyone to do the same, Fact is there is ALOT more info out there for wet set ups then there is for Dry.
We went just as fast with Shiz's plate kit as we have with my Dry set up.
Bottom line is when you start stepping on it your tune up better be right wether its wet or dry.
Back to Dave vs. Robert
I'm right there with ya. Just because I have a dry set up I dont try to get everyone to do the same, Fact is there is ALOT more info out there for wet set ups then there is for Dry.
We went just as fast with Shiz's plate kit as we have with my Dry set up.
Bottom line is when you start stepping on it your tune up better be right wether its wet or dry.
Back to Dave vs. Robert
You insinuate that I have never set up a dry direct port and that I do not know what I am talking about so I am going to call you out on that one.
Yes we have set up many dry direct ports. We would never ever do one the way you suggest doing it though. The reasons why are covered above.
Now let’s talk about experience. You like to throw your age around insinuating it means you have a lot of and more experience than me. So let’s clear that one up. I have been a technical advising sponsor on this board since 2002. No I am not near as old as you but this does not mean that I do not have more knowledge than you.
See I have done this everyday of my life for over the last 10 years as my profession. This does not include what I done before it became my profession.
I happen to remember when you started posting here. I can tell you based off the questions you were asking me and NX Ricky and the lack of knowledge you had you had not been successfully using nitrous for 20 -30 years. Now you have came along way and Ill give credit where credit is due but you still have along way to go before trying to compare your knowledge against mine.
The fact that you hurt your personal car 3 times last year and have yet had any good results using the advice you give others is a perfect example for what I am talking about.
I have successfully built many cars and tuned them for our customers with nothing but great results. In the last 10 years I have hurt one car and it was due to a voltage issue in the car. It was my personal car. Now I am not talking about 5, 10, 15 or even 20 cars.... I am talking a **** load of cars. I have worked with everything from Drag boats, Drag cars, street cars, motorcycles, go carts, mud trucks, long mile cars and the list goes on. If I did not know what the hell I was talking about there would be a **** load of people talking about how I blew there car up. Instead all you will find is how great we are. There is a reason for that.
Now if you have a difference in opinion on how you like doing things that’s fine. I have no issue with that. But do not insult my integrity or knowledge in the process of arguing your methods. Do it in a clean and technical manner so we can all continue to have fun here. I will do the same.
Thanks
Dave
Yes we have set up many dry direct ports. We would never ever do one the way you suggest doing it though. The reasons why are covered above.
Now let’s talk about experience. You like to throw your age around insinuating it means you have a lot of and more experience than me. So let’s clear that one up. I have been a technical advising sponsor on this board since 2002. No I am not near as old as you but this does not mean that I do not have more knowledge than you.
See I have done this everyday of my life for over the last 10 years as my profession. This does not include what I done before it became my profession.
I happen to remember when you started posting here. I can tell you based off the questions you were asking me and NX Ricky and the lack of knowledge you had you had not been successfully using nitrous for 20 -30 years. Now you have came along way and Ill give credit where credit is due but you still have along way to go before trying to compare your knowledge against mine.
The fact that you hurt your personal car 3 times last year and have yet had any good results using the advice you give others is a perfect example for what I am talking about.
I have successfully built many cars and tuned them for our customers with nothing but great results. In the last 10 years I have hurt one car and it was due to a voltage issue in the car. It was my personal car. Now I am not talking about 5, 10, 15 or even 20 cars.... I am talking a **** load of cars. I have worked with everything from Drag boats, Drag cars, street cars, motorcycles, go carts, mud trucks, long mile cars and the list goes on. If I did not know what the hell I was talking about there would be a **** load of people talking about how I blew there car up. Instead all you will find is how great we are. There is a reason for that.
Now if you have a difference in opinion on how you like doing things that’s fine. I have no issue with that. But do not insult my integrity or knowledge in the process of arguing your methods. Do it in a clean and technical manner so we can all continue to have fun here. I will do the same.
Thanks
Dave
Now back to the dry Direct port. Every single dry tuning thread about a direct port you come in and say that it is no good because you can not do individual cylinder tuning. that is such BS. Why can you run a plate, or nozzles with out individual cylinder tuning? You never say that in the plate threads, lol. You see my point.
Furthermore, our below the intake plenum style intakes really do not have that big of an issue moving air or nitrous around, but rather the heavier fuel when introduced forward, and DP port wet for the reason i already stated. if in fact you have been setting up dry DP hits, why do you not show them in your DP threads? Furthermore, if that was the case you would see how close the cylinders are from the get go and no need for individual cylinder tuning on the street/strip style hits used on this site.
Check the plugs anyone whom doubts my input. This would be after it was properly set-up and flowed. You will see how close they are. then take your average wet DP kit and jet as per instructed and look at the plugs. You will see imediatley the need for futher fine tuning. get your self a lot of jets to dial it in as good as a dry DP is fromn the get go.
Now if your going to the dedicted drag car and/or very big hits, then yes a Dry direct port could benift from additional individual cylinder tuning as could the plate kits and nozzle kits. I would say that 95% of all nitrous users do not do individual cylinder tuning. I saw in one of your posts where you told someone running your plate to tune to the leanest cylinder? Why you didn't tell that person he needed an after market controller for individual cylinder tuning is beyond me.
How many out there are doing individual cylinder tuning on their 200/300 street strip wet nozzle hits, or plate hits? or the dry plate hits? For that matter even the DP wet which has the ability, most do not do it but rather use a WB for a general a/f ratio. this why I have problem with you implicating the dry DP as having some kind of disadvatage, when in fact it has an advantage for those with out the ability to do individual cylinder tuning.
Dave if you keep this totally a tech argument, i will also. So I am calling a truce on any personal level bashing from here forward, ok? Sorry if I offended you on a personal level and will try real hard not to.
Robert
Yes running a different coldness plug in a cylinder can alter the burn rate compared to another. That is one of those things you only want to do if you are at a race and have no other option. Its a band aid fix.
I have no issue with doing a dry directport. I just feel if you are not going to do it right why even go directport in the first place.
I have no issue with doing a dry directport. I just feel if you are not going to do it right why even go directport in the first place.
Robert
