Whats wrong with the Nitrous Timing Controller that Thunderracing sells. Seems a little more reliable. Apparently 422's are not cheap lol!

 

The Ramchargers Timing Tuner works. I have used it before.

Dry nitrous doesnt suck *** at all. But its not the end all either. I plan to add another stage wet. Using a combo of dry and wet you can safely run very large shots without the cost of a direct port. I think the ultimate system would be a large dry first stage followed by a large wet direct port. That probably what I will be doing soon. Say 200 dry and 200 wet direct port. Each one staged.

 

I have first hand experience with dry shots, IMO I think they suck, I will not let my maf tell my computer how much fuel to add for nitrous, period. it sounds like you were waiting for someone to say they don't so you could jump in with that comment, lol

as far as the IAT timing, it works, for the same reason it works when you spray through the maf, as it raises your G/cyl tables tremendously, perhaps there are some parameters that tuners are missing when editing the desired feild for timing reduction.

I am not saying that the dry method doesn't work, but I would rather keep a simpler, also I plan on getting really close to my maf limitations on motor and I don't care to upgrade the maf system, I would prefer to go DFI.

and IMO with this intake manifold design spraying more than a 150 shot is unsafe, distribution of nitrous will vary cylinder pressure from one cylinder to another, some cylinders will require even less timing due to detonation, so reudicing timing to prevent knock and performance on nitrous is less than optimal.

 

charlie,

that crack was directed at nick, nothing more. im no stranger to the cartek boys.

speaking of whom,

Nick, Al and Jeremy have put a ton of time into developing this shot for the street. to try and reason out the setup is something MANY folks have attempted, but you just cant deny the fact that it is working, and working well. it distributes the nitrous about as evenly as it does air, and the pcm makes the corrections on timing, and fuel. check out al's dyno sheet, i've NEVER seen one w/ as flat of a curve as what his is. turbo, nitrous, supercharger, none are this flat, and it's doing it in the area you need it most, the upper rpm's where ya spend most of a track run. pretty darn slick. granted it's not for everyone, but neither are direct ports, and track passes in the 9's. no offense intended here man, just looking at the info, and being sure that it's all out there on the table.

 

Not really, but the majority of wet nitrous users have a tendency to lookdown on dry users as somekind of sublevel or something.
Big shot dry require way deeper knowledge of tuning and can be as effective and more efficient.
Why are people so afraid of their MAF anyways.

I totally agree with your intake theory, and that is a point that could easily be overlooked.

Personaly, I'm a partisan of Dry/Wet dual stage and I'm just waiting on my forged shortblock to step up.

 

right on, no matter what I feel dry shots will always be a tuning nightmare, as they require bigger injectors, and a maf that can read an enormous amount of airflow, and be accurate, I dont look down upon them though.

 

Is this the same Mike Hall that used to live in Dallas? was a founding member of the local MFBA?

 

Why don't you buy a timing switch from tyburne or LS1 speed they are only $285.00 and it does every thing you are talking about?

 

why spend 285 dollars when i can do it for 15 bucks... and work just as well

 

Yes but for 285.00 you can program base timing, WOT timing, timing when the N20 is on, it will turn on and off the N20 at a programed rpm, you can delay the N20 when it comes on. It does away with the window switch. You can't do that for 15 bucks!

 

How Much Timing Will This Allow Me To Pull WHEN SPRAYING?