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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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I've been thinking about doing a dual stage setup for a long time now. I've been thinking about a 125 shot wet for the first and a 75 shot dry for the second stage. I've been running a 150 shot for a while now and i've had no issuse at all. I'm looking for some other thoughts and opinions from you guys so tell me what you think!

the car has 80k but still holding strong.
how much timing would i have to pull?
what about fuel pump and injectors?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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unless you are having traction issues, why go with a second stage? Why not just bump the first stage up to a 175 shot?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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i was thinking about just doing a 175 shot but i'd like to run a little more like a 200 shot. From the reaserch i've done and from what i've been told, you're able run more nitrous in stages rather than one big hit. Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not a big nitrous guru, thats why i'm asking for suggestions and help.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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harris speed works microedge + might be an option with its progressive control function u can run a 200 shot and not have to worry about adding the second stage
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Every car and every build is different. I have a 2 stage wet on my car and instead of running a stacked shot which would mess with bottle pressure, I chose to switch from one kit to the other. I run 100 on the first to get out of the hole and once its hooked and out I am switched over to the 200 shot. I didn't want to run a dry shot because then I would need a retune and bigger injectors.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Every car and every build is different. I have a 2 stage wet on my car and instead of running a stacked shot which would mess with bottle pressure, I chose to switch from one kit to the other. I run 100 on the first to get out of the hole and once its hooked and out I am switched over to the 200 shot. I didn't want to run a dry shot because then I would need a retune and bigger injectors.

Curious as to how a stacked shot messes with bottle pressure.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Curious as to how a stacked shot messes with bottle pressure.
When using one bottle and spraying the first shot the bottle pressure drops and when you stack the second shot on top the second shot will be a lil richer due to the bottle pressure being already dropped by the first shot.

I think it was you and a few others who advised me with this on here awhile back and that is the reason I did it the way I did.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the pressure dropping a little. You know thats the case when you turn the 2nd kit on so you set it up to run a little leaner to make up for that.

Its not a issue, everyone does it without issue.

My thoughts are if you have a stage on never turn it off just keep putting more on top of it !
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Yeah that was the same advice you gave me but I needed to run my shots individually and thats when everyone agreed to just separate the shots and just switch from one to the other.

As far as never turning off a shot, just keep stacking on top of it I can tell by you wheelstand in the pic
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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would progressing a 200 shot by setting the progressive unit to shoot the 200 at 50% (100hp) then in second gear set the unit to shoot 100% (all 200hp) be the same as running two stages or is there a downside to this.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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The only downside is you cant streetrace with that setup. Theres no ability to sandbag with that. This is IMO. If you don't streetrace it will be a pretty good setup
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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I just heard that some people dont like progressing because it works the noids harder, but I wanted a two stage and also wanted to save the extra cost of buying extra lines noids and nozzles.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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If you have a NANO set up would stacking even be an issue due to the constant bottle pressure the system supplies?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Nano ftw!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
The only downside is you cant streetrace with that setup. Theres no ability to sandbag with that. This is IMO. If you don't streetrace it will be a pretty good setup
why is it you cant street race with that set up? just curious as i was thinking of doing that set up with a progressive controller.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CUR 4 VNM
why is it you cant street race with that set up? just curious as i was thinking of doing that set up with a progressive controller.
I think he was saying its not good for street racing because the progressive controller is automatic and in a street race you may not need or want your second system to hit .

If your beating that cobra already on the 1st 100 shot you may not want to kill him with the second stage because then you'll scare everybody else off and you won't get many races if you go around beating people be 2 bus lengths.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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oh ok that makes sense. maybe i misunderstood then but thank you for clearing that up for me.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MelScrilla
I think he was saying its not good for street racing because the progressive controller is automatic and in a street race you may not need or want your second system to hit .

If your beating that cobra already on the 1st 100 shot you may not want to kill him with the second stage because then you'll scare everybody else off and you won't get many races if you go around beating people be 2 bus lengths.
Bingo this man wins the prize!!!
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Nano ftw .

I will never go back to a bottle warmer ,, EVER !

2 seperate stages is the way to go imo .
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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2 stages AND a progressive here.....

Works great, especially if you want to hit it HARD out of the hole and don't have all the fancy suspension stuff like me.
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