Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes?
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Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? What is the most agressive nitrous cam that you would recommend for stock cubes and a stage 2/3 head? I would like decent numbers on motor (380 rwhp+), but a huge improvement on the bottle.... So lets hear your opinions.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? Why not? I'm actually trying to learn here. Sorry if my base of knowledge isn't that great, but everyone has to start somewhere....
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? im just jacking with you. theres a post about cams here and in the engine section. most will say that a 114 or higher is better for N2O. I think tighter is better because its produces less cylinder pressure. but at this level (400-600hp) it may be a non issue. who knows. i would call Nick @ ARE. he spec'd out Andy's 114 LSA cam and i think he spec'd or help pick KECHME's old cam (the one i noted above with the 110lsa). That car was always on the juice so i have no solid NA numbers v. N2O numbers to give. Id go with what you want or what you can get a deal on.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by RyanJackson:
im not answering that.<hr></blockquote>
Lol <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
What i think he means is that alot of people differ on this. But really i would like to know the same thing. I was reading somewhere else and it said something about a 114-116 lsa for a "mostly" NA motor with an occasional shot of n20. Now you say 110. I/we just want to know why you think 110 would work better. Opinions please! And no fighting!
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im not answering that.<hr></blockquote>
Lol <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
What i think he means is that alot of people differ on this. But really i would like to know the same thing. I was reading somewhere else and it said something about a 114-116 lsa for a "mostly" NA motor with an occasional shot of n20. Now you say 110. I/we just want to know why you think 110 would work better. Opinions please! And no fighting!
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? doh. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
looks like u got to it b4 i did ryan <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
looks like u got to it b4 i did ryan <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? Well, the car is a daily driver with an automatic (soon to be a TH400), so a 110 LSA might be unstreetable. I do like the other specs from that cam. I'm just curious as to how much lift/duration is too much for stock cubes.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? the lift/duration is a pretty standard ARE grind. what heads/cam setup are you looking at? Personally i would go with GTP 2.02/1.57 Stage 2's with what ever cam you want. they have a monster 226/226 112 that went like 10.95 NA. a M6 guy went 11.30 with a 226/236 .515/.515 114 (my pick for you auto car). its up to you, thats just the biggest ive seen. wait. Jason99ta has a 230/230 xxx/xxx 112 cam...solid roller though.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? Wow... just found my old topic. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Ok, I want to stay away from a solid roller. I am looking at ARE stage 2 heads, with the 2.08/1.60 valves. Any specs on Andy's old 114 LSA cam?
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Ok, I want to stay away from a solid roller. I am looking at ARE stage 2 heads, with the 2.08/1.60 valves. Any specs on Andy's old 114 LSA cam?
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? with new reading...id say 114. a 221/227 is good (IRS has that grind). andy's was like 216/224, but comp has an off the shelf 218/224 i think. the biggest would be either ARE's 226/234 554/575 112 or a 224/228 or so. also, i think the 2.08's are a waste.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by The Underdog:
<strong>with new reading...id say 114. a 221/227 is good (IRS has that grind). andy's was like 216/224, but comp has an off the shelf 218/224 i think. the biggest would be either ARE's 226/234 554/575 112 or a 224/228 or so. also, i think the 2.08's are a waste.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The reason I am looking at the 2.08's is I hope to swap these heads over to a 400+ cube setup in a year or so. I figure if they are a bit overkill now, they will be just right then. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
That ARE 226/234 sounds nice. A 112 would be livable.
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<strong>with new reading...id say 114. a 221/227 is good (IRS has that grind). andy's was like 216/224, but comp has an off the shelf 218/224 i think. the biggest would be either ARE's 226/234 554/575 112 or a 224/228 or so. also, i think the 2.08's are a waste.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The reason I am looking at the 2.08's is I hope to swap these heads over to a 400+ cube setup in a year or so. I figure if they are a bit overkill now, they will be just right then. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
That ARE 226/234 sounds nice. A 112 would be livable.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? I'm installing, as we speak, a Lunati Cam 221/224 .558 .560 @ 114 from www.thunderracing.com don't have any numbers yet but this summer will see. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? on the 2.08 thing. lots of people say that but i dont get it. ARE's 2.08 valves for a stock bore have been moved over to prevent shrouding on the small bore. this is not needed with a larger bore. also, your heads WILL need updating later to match bore size when you block is made bigger so why not do that when you have to open up your chambers? it will likely cost you less in machine work and the cost will be the same with the valve. I would go with GTP heads (they only need 2.02/1.57 valves to hit 10's NA stock block. and mti uses 2.055/1.60. I havent seen one good reason to go with 2.08's. BUT...its your choice. ARE knows there nitrous cars.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? Speed Inc had a car go 11.6@116 (NA) and 10.8@125(N20) on this setup:
RGR Stage 2 Heads (2.02/1.57)
Comp Cams 224/228 .563/.563 112
It was an A4 with a Vig. 3200, SLP LTs and was on Nittos. Only weight reduction was I believe the !jack & !spare.
RGR Stage 2 Heads (2.02/1.57)
Comp Cams 224/228 .563/.563 112
It was an A4 with a Vig. 3200, SLP LTs and was on Nittos. Only weight reduction was I believe the !jack & !spare.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by Trans Am WS6 420:
<strong>Well, the car is a daily driver with an automatic (soon to be a TH400</strong><hr></blockquote>
So cam it for that. There really won't be much to gain from a N20 specific cam on a mainly steetable car to sacrifice the N/A performance for a (realativly) occasional strip run IMO.
<strong>Well, the car is a daily driver with an automatic (soon to be a TH400</strong><hr></blockquote>
So cam it for that. There really won't be much to gain from a N20 specific cam on a mainly steetable car to sacrifice the N/A performance for a (realativly) occasional strip run IMO.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by spiesscj:
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So cam it for that. There really won't be much to gain from a N20 specific cam on a mainly steetable car to sacrifice the N/A performance for a (realativly) occasional strip run IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, I'm not SO worried about streetability. It's a daily driver, yes, but I want it to shine on Saturday nights when I crack the bottle open. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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So cam it for that. There really won't be much to gain from a N20 specific cam on a mainly steetable car to sacrifice the N/A performance for a (realativly) occasional strip run IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, I'm not SO worried about streetability. It's a daily driver, yes, but I want it to shine on Saturday nights when I crack the bottle open. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by Trans Am WS6 420:
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Actually, I'm not SO worried about streetability. It's a daily driver, yes, but I want it to shine on Saturday nights when I crack the bottle open. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
- Matt</strong><hr></blockquote>Go with morgan motorsports'229/229 dur 578/578 lift cam and then juice it.Not only will you shine on saturday but you will shine everyday of the week.You will also stunt,and bling bling baby.
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Actually, I'm not SO worried about streetability. It's a daily driver, yes, but I want it to shine on Saturday nights when I crack the bottle open. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
- Matt</strong><hr></blockquote>Go with morgan motorsports'229/229 dur 578/578 lift cam and then juice it.Not only will you shine on saturday but you will shine everyday of the week.You will also stunt,and bling bling baby.
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Re: Nitrous cams... How big for stock cubes? [quote]Originally posted by The Booker Man:
<strong>Go with morgan motorsports'229/229 dur 578/578 lift cam and then juice it.Not only will you shine on saturday but you will shine everyday of the week.You will also stunt,and bling bling baby.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL. I really want to get a cam that is nitrous specific. I figure stage II/III heads and a cam (whatever it may be) will be more than enough to spice up my everyday driving NA. I just want to make sure when I'm running the car on the bottle, it REALLY wakes up. I've heard stories of people on here with a nitrous cam gaining 175 rwhp from 150 jets. I'm interested to see how that would work out with my 200 shot. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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<strong>Go with morgan motorsports'229/229 dur 578/578 lift cam and then juice it.Not only will you shine on saturday but you will shine everyday of the week.You will also stunt,and bling bling baby.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL. I really want to get a cam that is nitrous specific. I figure stage II/III heads and a cam (whatever it may be) will be more than enough to spice up my everyday driving NA. I just want to make sure when I'm running the car on the bottle, it REALLY wakes up. I've heard stories of people on here with a nitrous cam gaining 175 rwhp from 150 jets. I'm interested to see how that would work out with my 200 shot. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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