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Sales@Tick 06-24-2013 05:04 PM

First outing in 3800lb. 6 speed 408=6.50@107
 

Any questions just ask!

Blackbird-WS6 06-24-2013 05:16 PM

Now big of a shot and what clutch??

Sales@Tick 06-24-2013 05:33 PM

200 shot, B8EFS plugs and a Spec 3+. It was very rich on these passes. Mid 10's to high 10's air fuel. We were not worried about the tune at all on this outing. Well I take that back as we did take half a pound of FP out, but forgot to plug the wide band back in after doing so.

It has our Level 3 Viper Spec T56 with bungs and sprayers. I'll post more pictures and videos from the race we went to. We made it to the semi finals with a totally untested car in the Manual Shootout at Draggin' Rights.

nocooler 06-24-2013 06:07 PM

Faceplated?

Nemesis350 06-24-2013 07:35 PM

Launching at 7k? 60'?

My "stock" t56 finally let go last weekend... so far i'm guessing input shaft grenaded after 10 6k dumps on slicks. So i'm very interested in that Level 3 trans. Stock gear ratio? About how much power is that car putting down?

I'm only at 400hp, and don't even powershift... but I definitely want/need something that'll survive my frequent track outings :)

nocooler 06-24-2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis350 (Post 17499447)
Launching at 7k? 60'?

My "stock" t56 finally let go last weekend... so far i'm guessing input shaft grenaded after 10 6k dumps on slicks. So i'm very interested in that Level 3 trans. Stock gear ratio? About how much power is that car putting down?

I'm only at 400hp, and don't even powershift... but I definitely want/need something that'll survive my frequent track outings :)

Guess you are unlucky - my stocker lasted nearly 400 passes on slicks, and my level 4+ from rpm went another 200. power shifting on the bottle finally took it out :(

Sorry for the thread derail Martin.

topendrunner 06-24-2013 08:19 PM

badass! Love the launch. One day I hope to get mine to leave like that!

Blackpanther99 06-24-2013 08:25 PM

Very nice!! Good driving as well.

TheBlack99ss 06-24-2013 09:52 PM

What was your 60'?

Sales@Tick 06-25-2013 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by nocooler (Post 17499193)
Faceplated?

No sir. This has the stock synchro's in it still. This is a true 100% street car. This car weighs 3800lbs because it has not one lick of weight reduction done to it. No cage, full leather interior the way it came from GM, stereo, A/C, p/s, p/w, abs, battery up front, iron block, 9" with an iron housing, stock brakes and the list goes on and on and on.

The car weighs 3584 with 3/4 tank of fuel and has 56% on the nose which is ridiculous. We're going to move the batt. to the back using our relocation kit and possibly install a tubular K-member and upper/lower a-arms as it still has the stock k-member and arms.

Originally Posted by Nemesis350 (Post 17499447)
Launching at 7k? 60'?

My "stock" t56 finally let go last weekend... so far i'm guessing input shaft grenaded after 10 6k dumps on slicks. So i'm very interested in that Level 3 trans. Stock gear ratio? About how much power is that car putting down?

I'm only at 400hp, and don't even powershift... but I definitely want/need something that'll survive my frequent track outings :)

This pass was launched off the 7100rpm rev limiter set in the computer via HPT. We will be installing a 2-step before the next track outing. It was too hard trying to manipulate the throttle at 10-20% TPS and then flat foot it while side stepping the clutch from a heel toe position. Just too much to think about.

Once the two step is on, it will probably end up being set at 4000rpm and letting the nitrous do it's job and generate the wheel speed that we need for us instead of using engine rpm and modulating the throttle to do it.

Originally Posted by nocooler (Post 17499496)
Guess you are unlucky - my stocker lasted nearly 400 passes on slicks, and my level 4+ from rpm went another 200. power shifting on the bottle finally took it out :(

Sorry for the thread derail Martin.

No problem. Some of them go some of them don't. It really depends on what kind of clutch you have, how hard it locks up when it grabs, how heavy the car is and of course how much power you're making.

Originally Posted by topendrunner (Post 17499573)
badass! Love the launch. One day I hope to get mine to leave like that!

Matt, it can right now! Just put a slick on it! Those radials aren't doing you any justice. IMO a six speed car at the track with the suspension underneath it and the drive-train underneath it to handle a launch like this, that is running radials is selling themselves short. IMO you must use a slick with a manual transmission to get any kind of consistent impressive E.T. out of it. You might get one glory pass with a radial with a manual transmission, but that's going to be very few and far between.

Originally Posted by Blackpanther99 (Post 17499586)
Very nice!! Good driving as well.

That was my boss Jonathan driving the car.

Originally Posted by TheBlack99ss (Post 17499841)
What was your 60'?

1.46 on this pass.

Here are some other passes from Saturday:

Motor pass 7.20@98

Qualifying pass 6.82@106

Round one bye 6.7x@105

Semi-finals loss 6.90@107

The car is so nose heavy right now with 56% nose weight, that the front shocks have to be set on full loose just to get it to transfer weight to the rear tires, but since we weren't able to leave against the two step with the gas matted, that weight wasn't staying transferred and 5 feet out the nose would drop as you can see in all the videos. When that happened with the track as hot as it was, it just made for excessive wheel speed and tire spin. The one good 6.50 pass we got was when the clouds had been out all morning long keeping the track cool. Even then with the track cooler it probably would of went faster had the weight stayed transferred and caused less wheel spin. Once the track got hot it was grease/spin city.

We've got plans to fix that though!

alans02z 06-25-2013 10:02 AM

That blue cam only 3650 pound ss sure looks like it runs good. Wonder how it would've looked if his 60, et, and mph were on par too :drive:

TWINSCREW 06-25-2013 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by alans02z (Post 17500830)
That blue cam only 3650 pound ss sure looks like it runs good. Wonder how it would've looked if his 60, et, and mph were on par too :drive:


Wait, so that blue car is a stock head, small cam ls1 running the same shot as the white car? And the white car is a built 408? Sad... :drive:

superramvette2 06-25-2013 11:57 AM

No it isn't sad. Black car looked like an auto and also out treed him. He was pulling on that black car something fierce down the track.

alans02z 06-25-2013 12:10 PM

Nope, just a little old 6 speed car. And the cars trap about the same on nitrous and motor. It was a 6 speed shoot out.

andys02r1 06-25-2013 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by superramvette2 (Post 17501067)
No it isn't sad. Black car looked like an auto and also out treed him. He was pulling on that black car something fierce down the track.

Blue car is mine and its 6 speed. Thanks for the auto compliment tho.

Sales@Tick 06-25-2013 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by TWINSCREW (Post 17500917)
Wait, so that blue car is a stock head, small cam ls1 running the same shot as the white car? And the white car is a built 408? Sad... :drive:

When ever you want your doors blown off in your 9.0 second 1/8th mile truck let us know. We got a whole shop full of cars and trucks that will give you the back tire for life and still clear you off with gap between our back bumper and your front bumper.

Originally Posted by andys02r1 (Post 17501126)
Blue car is mine and its 6 speed. Thanks for the auto compliment tho.

What's up Andy!

WhiteLTone 06-25-2013 06:15 PM

the white car looks clean.

stroked383HSR 06-25-2013 08:59 PM

Both cars ripped it down the track!

I heard the blue car won the manual shoot out? true?

andys02r1 06-26-2013 02:33 AM

Yeah the blue car won it

03EBZ06 06-26-2013 03:08 AM

nice driving. 6 spds rule!


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