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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Default Dyno w/ Cold Fusion Kit

125hp Cold Fusion Wet Kit Dyno... reasonable gains? also have a 3500 TCI Stall Converter...
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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91 rwhp on a 125 shot is kinda week. i gained that from my 100 nx shot off the maf kit. no flames intended but i guess you get what you pay for. take it to the track and see what it does.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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what size jets are they using on their 125 shot?
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Well I like NX but my NXL kit is not putting down the power either. I am guessing about 60ish HP on a 120 shot and I sure as hell paid a lot for it!! Should have gotten a MAF kit and been done with it.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by algws6
91 rwhp on a 125 shot is kinda week. i gained that from my 100 nx shot off the maf kit. no flames intended but i guess you get what you pay for. take it to the track and see what it does.

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Statements like that really chap my ***. Guess what guys NITROUS IS NITROUS. End of story. The only place that one company is better than another is Quality/Reliability.

Nitrous Power gains are ONLY a factor of Three things:

Air fuel ratio
Nitrous bottle pressure
Jet Size

Period. End of story.

The only reason people get different numbers is one of the above. Some companies rate thier jets smaller than they actually are. Some rate the power of the shot at the rear wheels, some at the fly wheel.

Nitrous is Nitrous.

Ryan K.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Karasek
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Statements like that really chap my ***. Guess what guys NITROUS IS NITROUS. End of story. The only place that one company is better than another is Quality/Reliability.

Nitrous Power gains are ONLY a factor of Three things:

Air fuel ratio
Nitrous bottle pressure
Jet Size

Period. End of story.

The only reason people get different numbers is one of the above. Some companies rate thier jets smaller than they actually are. Some rate the power of the shot at the rear wheels, some at the fly wheel.

Nitrous is Nitrous.

Ryan K.
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hey stop that your not allowed to make sence on the internet
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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i understand what your saying but gaining 91 rwhp off of a 125 shot is not right. if this is the case why not just call it a 100 shot? if your *** is that chapped might i recomend bathing.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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So, Humm Smart Guy, what is 125 flywheel HP - 20% drivetrain loss?

If Cold fusion wants to rate thiers (like most companies) at the flywheel, thats thier call.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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100. i agree nitrous is nitrous however some kits have better atomization than others which also varies in the hp produced. why doesn't cold fusion post how they rate their kits? like i stated before no flames intended.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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just got back from the track and sprayed at about 60 feet out so i would not break her loose. best run was 12.081 @ 118.76mph (1.89 / 60ft)

the HP increase of 91 in the sig had me confused as well and will look , but the air was much much more humid and hot between the two dynos.. (May compared to late August in SA)

PS: was about 94F between 4 and 7PM at SAR in Marion

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Originally Posted by algws6
91 rwhp on a 125 shot is kinda week. i gained that from my 100 nx shot off the maf kit. no flames intended but i guess you get what you pay for. take it to the track and see what it does.

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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 02:49 AM
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Do you know your bottle pressure at the time of the dyno?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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When nitro companies make their sistem most of them was based on a complete factory car with no mods at all.The motor is an air pump and if you put some bolt ons a car it going to affect the results on the nitro sistem.That's why i think when you modify a car the only way to know how much HP you inject to it with NOS is with a Dyno run.If put bolt ons , the motor going to be more efficient N/a so with NOS going to be hit less with a 100HP jets or whatever because those number are based on teory but for real you going to get HP true the motor.Just my .02.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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You guys need to completey forget factory ratings and stop judging kits by that. As said above it kind of chaps my *** too. Its rediculous. Install the kit...start with the small jets...get the AF right..and work your way up to your desired RWHP level maintaining good AF ratio.

Kit sounds like it works great! Want more HP...pill it up...its as simple as that.

Do you guys really think that if one kit calls a set of jets a 125 shot (that get 95 at the wheels) and another kit calls a set of jets a 125 shot (that gets 130 to the wheels) that they are flowing the same amount of nitrous and fuel?

Atomization is a good thing...but most nozzles on the market today work great and I dont believe one is signifacantly better than the next by a large margin. Atleast not to the tune of 35-40 hp at equal flow of nitrous and fuel.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by algws6
100. i agree nitrous is nitrous however some kits have better atomization than others which also varies in the hp produced. why doesn't cold fusion post how they rate their kits? like i stated before no flames intended.
When I talked to Mike about the kits he said it was rated at the flywheel.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cokeroker
just got back from the track and sprayed at about 60 feet out so i would not break her loose. best run was 12.081 @ 118.76mph (1.89 / 60ft)

PS: was about 94F between 4 and 7PM at SAR in Marion

am happy regardless
no trying to be rude but you should be too happy with that ET...your car on motor should run 12.30s no problem on the spray you have over 400hp..i dunno what tires you were on but if you gunna use nitrous you really gota shoot it from the start...if you hook on the spray from the start an you can get that 60ft to atleast 1.60 or better you will be well into the 11's....remember every .10(tenth) off your 60ft is 2 tenths off you ET...do the math an you will be happier if you spray from the start...again unless you didnt have slicks or drag radials atleast mph is there but im all about ET
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KillaCoupe
no trying to be rude but you should be too happy with that ET...your car on motor should run 12.30s no problem on the spray you have over 400hp..i dunno what tires you were on but if you gunna use nitrous you really gota shoot it from the start...if you hook on the spray from the start an you can get that 60ft to atleast 1.60 or better you will be well into the 11's....remember every .10(tenth) off your 60ft is 2 tenths off you ET...do the math an you will be happier if you spray from the start...again unless you didnt have slicks or drag radials atleast mph is there but im all about ET


I agree with you 100%
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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How is the quality of the kit? I have been looking at there stuff just have not seen to many people running there kits.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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I have spoken with Reher Morrison several times about BBC NOS systems for my Firebird, and they say they only use Cold Fusion, so they must make good stuff.
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