This thread gave me a good laugh.
We offer a dry and wet hidden kit.
We have alot of customers that race for money.We also have alot of hustlers that use our systems.Its not always the case that they are hidding the fact they are running nitrous.In some casses it is that they are trying to make it less obvious how much nitrous they are running.
In alot of cases racing for money has several tricks into it.Since way back people have kept as little about there set ups to them self.I see nothing wrong with it.I think it makes it more interesting.
If I was racing for money and someone asked I would not deny it because that would be lying.If I didnt want them to know what I have I would just tell them that I was keeping whats in the car to myself.
Dave

 

I agree it is part of the game, but if I am setting up a race with someone I doubt everything that comes out of their mouth about their car and it's abilities. 90% of winning street races is determined by what goes on before the cars ever move because everyone wants an advantage if they can get it.

It's all in fun though, so I don't care if people know I have it or not.

 

Sounds like dry is the simple way to go for begginners so thats probably what i'll end up doing.

If I buy a complete kit will I need to have my car tuned? Can I run it with the stock tune reliably?

How much is a refill on the bottle? How long will the bottle last?

 

That was well said. If you pull up to a spot and start talking to someone about racing and they tell you they won't pop the hood, then it's up to you to try the guy/girl or walk away. I won't start talking trash to anyone I have not done "a little research on " anyway. Hell it was best said if I pop my hood only the person I'm racing will see and it will cost him. So if he wants to pay for information that he will share with the public so be it.

 

Thats a good idea to ask for money just to pop the hood...
I'm gonna do that.

 

1) Yes

2) What's especially nice about N2O is that it only affects your car when in use (unlike TC/SC which is always on) but you are asking for trouble. Nitrous will foul your plugs rather quickly on a stock tune, especially if you use it a lot.

3)Depends, CA (like everything else out there) is probably more expensive. Contact a supplier in your area.

4)Again, it depends on use. A 10lb bottle = ~4 - 6 passes at the track, (depending on size of shot)

 

Thanks for the reply, If i get my car tuned for nitrous will I lose power when Im running without it?(compared to the stock tune?)

It would kinda suck if my car was slower all the tme until I used nitrous.

 

An LS1 Edit tune is usually good for 10hp over the stock tune. If you have not had your car tuned yet (w/LS1 Edit or HP Tuners), you'll find that your car will have more hp/tq than stock, eventhough it'll be tuned for Nitrous. Sounds like a win - win scenario.

 

For street racing I like the dual stage. All my stuff is out in the open, on display. But they don't know how much or when I am spraying. So you get beat on your first stage, then you reel in the big fish and arm your 2nd stage and go home with a wallet that's hard to get in pocket. It's all about how you play the game, you will get beat, but in long run can you come out on top, yes. Been doing a little street racing since the mid '70's, that's why I don't post numbers, why give unneeded advantage, but will be giving this up soon.

Now, if you decide on a dry hidden set-up Nitro dave has a nice set-up and the NOS 5177 needs to be considered. Both are very safe, reliable and cost effective. You don't need to pull timing, up-grade fuel (change plugs though) on the small dry hits, so stock tune is fine on stockish motor. Also, either one of these kits can be upgraded later to wet (Dave's kit?), larger dry or dual stage if you like. Great starter kits.

 

Cool, now what kind of plugs do I need?

 

seriously if you dont know all of this i would take it to a local shop who knows all of this then getting a bunch of different advice online everyones opinion is diff. and some parts can conflict.

 

TR6s.

You really need to contact Nitrous Dave. He will patiently answer all of your questions, and set you up with exactly what you need, at a reasonable price.

There's a lot more to it than just the nitrous. IMO, you'd be making a mistake if you didn't purchase all of the safety stuff that goes with it.

 

I have a question about this statement. Lets say for my case, a 150 wet shot, creating a new map with timing out would make my car a dog N/A wouldn't it? Or can you have the computer pull that map when the nitrous system is armed? Yeah you can get more power from the tune, but if your taking out timing, do the two really balance each other out?

What does ls1 edit run for? or would it be just better to have it dyno tuned somewhere instead of buying edit?

 

The first question should be, do I need to pull timing. Many times we don't. If your going to the trouble of re-tune should be logging and you'll know if timing pull is needed. Or, some guys use the timing tuner to pull while on spray only, saving the optimum n/a tune. Each degree of timing lost is a couple of HP, big deal ?, when your adding 150hp. Some just pull the 2* per 50hp as a safety thing with no tuning involved. These ideas/comments apply to wet kits.