few ? on a DRY system
Originally Posted by Robert56
Think about all the combination of problems that can happen on a wet hit compared to a dry hit, when considering redundant noids. About the only thing that can possibly cause a problem on a dry hit is a noid sticking open, so why not take that problem out of the picture. You could also make the argument for redundant noids on the fuel side of wet, but you double the chance of problems there also.
Also, one of my noid sticking open issues was with a filter. When I tore it apart it was from moisture. Cleaned it up, and been working since.
Noids do occasionaly stick open and/or fail to open. All kits and companys have a certain failure rate.
Robert
Also, one of my noid sticking open issues was with a filter. When I tore it apart it was from moisture. Cleaned it up, and been working since.
Noids do occasionaly stick open and/or fail to open. All kits and companys have a certain failure rate.
Robert
LOL,Ok so your point is that adding a second solenoid on a dry system is needed for safety. You say that doing that on a wet system just adds more risk. How is that it adds more risk? The whole purpose was incase one of the nitrous solenoids stuck open. So wouldnt it serve the same purpose on a wet system. Using dual nitrous solenoids. What if the system had a nitrous solenoid stick open after the system was turned off. How can it serve one purpose on one set up and not the other.Other than the fact it is a waist of money and time .Not to mention the huge restriction it causes.
On a dry system if the solenoid stuck open for some reason.You will know.The car will act funny.But want the maff add the fuel needed? Hopefully the indavidual will have enough common since to pull over and turn off the bottle. Unplug the coil packs and turn the motor over cycling all the nitrous out the exhaust.
For the guys reading this. Robert and I are not argueing. We are having a technical discusion...
Dave
Go with a single nozzle kit, and hide it all under the lid,
These are someone elses pics, but i did this too, works good, cant find anything, Ran line in wire loom, cant see a thing under the hood.
These are someone elses pics, but i did this too, works good, cant find anything, Ran line in wire loom, cant see a thing under the hood.
Originally Posted by V6 Bird
You dont neeed 2 solenoids...I run one big one with a .102 orfice and it supplies me fine. 200 pills make 240 and ive never had one hang open. I run a filter when filling the bottle, I use paste installing the fittings into the noid and I run a filter off the bottle itself.
If you know the signs of a stuck solenoid IE surging when the blade is closed, if your bottle is mounted like mine you kill the system and turn the bottle off which is mounted right behind you...
If you know the signs of a stuck solenoid IE surging when the blade is closed, if your bottle is mounted like mine you kill the system and turn the bottle off which is mounted right behind you...
Ok Ok call me over cautious but when your one noid goes, wave bye to your bottom end because it will be on it's way out too.
Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
LOL,Ok so your point is that adding a second solenoid on a dry system is needed for safety. You say that doing that on a wet system just adds more risk. How is that it adds more risk? The whole purpose was incase one of the nitrous solenoids stuck open. So wouldnt it serve the same purpose on a wet system. Using dual nitrous solenoids. What if the system had a nitrous solenoid stick open after the system was turned off. How can it serve one purpose on one set up and not the other.Other than the fact it is a waist of money and time .Not to mention the huge restriction it causes.
On a dry system if the solenoid stuck open for some reason.You will know.The car will act funny.But want the maff add the fuel needed? Hopefully the indavidual will have enough common since to pull over and turn off the bottle. Unplug the coil packs and turn the motor over cycling all the nitrous out the exhaust.
For the guys reading this. Robert and I are not argueing. We are having a technical discusion...
Dave
On a dry system if the solenoid stuck open for some reason.You will know.The car will act funny.But want the maff add the fuel needed? Hopefully the indavidual will have enough common since to pull over and turn off the bottle. Unplug the coil packs and turn the motor over cycling all the nitrous out the exhaust.
For the guys reading this. Robert and I are not argueing. We are having a technical discusion...
Dave
Robert
Robert.If a Nitrous solenoid did not open on a wet kit the car would just go super rich. I have seen many of people make pases and forget to turn on there nitrous bottle. No harm done.
Dave
Dave
Originally Posted by BURN'EM
Ok Ok call me over cautious but when your one noid goes, wave bye to your bottom end because it will be on it's way out too.
Originally Posted by Lawnboy
dave does your single nozzle kit came with the blue-purple fan nitrous nozzel like the dyno tune and zex kits?
heard this single nozzel can spray up to a 175 dry shot
heard this single nozzel can spray up to a 175 dry shot
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Robert.If a Nitrous solenoid did not open on a wet kit the car would just go super rich. I have seen many of people make pases and forget to turn on there nitrous bottle. No harm done.
Dave
Dave
Robert
Originally Posted by V6 Bird
You are wrong again....Becuase ive had a solenoid hang open from some debris that got by the filter...Guess what im not a rookie beyotch at this **** and i reached back like a pimp and cut it off....
Your just a dumb *** probaly 14 15 y/o just here running your mouth like in other threads. Why don't you go and race Longrange4U rather than tell him I might beat you! Damit mites live on chickens ***. Either you will or won't Chicken ****.
Who said you were a rookie? You did b/c you are! Ok so after a launch, still rollin down the road you turn your attention to make 2 full twist to shut off your bottle? I stand proven you are a Dumbass!
Originally Posted by Robert56
All I can say is, lucky them. I can post links to a half dozen explosions that fuel vapor in manifold helped make big. No n2o helping to atomize fuel allows droplets to form more easly and fall out of stream. I personaly have seen many drunk drivers driving down the road, however, I have never seen one kill another person, so it must not be a problem.
Robert
Robert
Dave
Originally Posted by Lawnboy
dave does your single nozzle kit came with the blue-purple fan nitrous nozzel like the dyno tune and zex kits?
heard this single nozzel can spray up to a 175 dry shot
heard this single nozzel can spray up to a 175 dry shot
Dave
Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Robert,You do know that there are super charger set ups that add there extra fuel by two injectors injecting fuel into the induction tube right? So how come these units do not have problems?
Dave
Dave
Did I read that correctly, NX in the dry?
Robert
Originally Posted by Robert56
Well I would have to say that a forced induction system is a whole different animal, compared to what we are doing. I think it's apples and oranges.
Did I read that correctly, NX in the dry?
Robert
Did I read that correctly, NX in the dry?
Robert
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Well I would have to say that a forced induction system is a whole different animal, compared to what we are doing. I think it's apples and oranges.
Did I read that correctly, NX in the dry?
Robert
Did I read that correctly, NX in the dry?
Robert
NX has 1 dry nozzle already, 1/8 npt thread, and are coming out with a 1/16 pipe thread one also..
Black for that nice clean look.
But at this time NX has NO intentioins of building a dry kit. sure we have the incognito kit, but I would not call that a dry kit,,, MORE of a grouping of parts, OR a kit that is missing something...
Ricky
Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Robert.If a Nitrous solenoid did not open on a wet kit the car would just go super rich. I have seen many of people make pases and forget to turn on there nitrous bottle. No harm done.
Dave
Dave
Originally Posted by BURN'EM
Your just a dumb *** probaly 14 15 y/o just here running your mouth like in other threads. Why don't you go and race Longrange4U rather than tell him I might beat you! Damit mites live on chickens ***. Either you will or won't Chicken ****.
Who said you were a rookie? You did b/c you are! Ok so after a launch, still rollin down the road you turn your attention to make 2 full twist to shut off your bottle? I stand proven you are a Dumbass!
Who said you were a rookie? You did b/c you are! Ok so after a launch, still rollin down the road you turn your attention to make 2 full twist to shut off your bottle? I stand proven you are a Dumbass!
Mike