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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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I have a G5X3 cam right now but I want more power NA and of course more power on the spray then what I have now. I have been kinda let down with this cam so before I build my Forged block w/ported LS6 heads i wanna find out what cam would benefit me the most NA? I have heard of that the MS3 cam is great but what other cams would see the most gains on the spray? I have people tell me to stay away from the T-Rex cam since it doesnt make much use of the spray.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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I have the ms3 and on a 150 shot I put a extra 188 horsepower to the wheels. I had a 228 234 cam in my car and that was not impressive on the spray at all it only did 92 horse on a 100 shot. Hope this helps but sorry if it doesn't.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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i wanna find out what cam would benefit me the most NA? I have heard of that the MS3 cam is great but what other cams would see the most gains on the spray?
That sounds like two different questions to me.
Unless you rely heavily on your N2O system (40% of your power or more) then most people are better off picking a cam that gives them optimum performance during NA operation.
Every cam is a nitrous cam once you hit the button. When a cam seems inefficient with the N2O it's usually a very simple matter to jet the system up until you get what you want.
This is a better trade-off for most people compared to sacrificing NA operation.

The only thing to stay away from really is something like a reverse-split cam which makes little sense when using N2O.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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I have a buddy that had a Trans Am with a T Rex, 3800 stall, 200 shot and of course typical bolt ons. His car ran 6.40 in the 1/8th in full street trim.
I thought the T-Rex liked the spray?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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how does the tsp tourqer v2 do on spray?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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white2001s10 pretty much said it all, go with what makes you happy NA unless you plan on spraying 250+ hp
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Well I do plan on spraying a 200 shot. Im looking for a cam with a good balance between the 2 (NA and on spray) My friend had the exact cam I have in his 2001 Z06 and he could only muster a messily 412rwhp, so im trying to find a cam thats isnt hyped up on a sponsor site like that cam was (havent been impressed with others numbers either) but then they dont slap spray on them either so im looking for some real world experience.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Use the stock cam
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ive read several f13 cams making 500+rwtqunder 4000 rpm on 150 shots
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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ive read several f13 cams making 500+rwtqunder 4000 rpm on 150 shots
i made 522 torque with a 2000 Camaro SS with full bolt ons (stock intake ls1 still) with stock long block..... with a cam i would hope one could do a lot better then 500 torque
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Well I do plan on spraying a 200 shot. Im looking for a cam with a good balance between the 2 (NA and on spray) My friend had the exact cam I have in his 2001 Z06 and he could only muster a messily 412rwhp, so im trying to find a cam thats isnt hyped up on a sponsor site like that cam was (havent been impressed with others numbers either) but then they dont slap spray on them either so im looking for some real world experience.
I made 444RWHP with stock ported heads with the same cam you have. My injectors were maxed out from 6K on. I expect around 450-455 once the new injectors are in. I think that's respectable. Add the 200 shot and 650 RWHP
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Hmmm... How about an Ed Curtis (EDC) special? Mine is 231/242 .637/.622 @ 114* and she loves the juice *Ed, if your reading this, I forgot to send you feedback already sorry* The cam runs pretty damn good for such a mismatched gearing (3.23), but soon the 3.50 9" will be here. Daily Driven and loven it, weekend sprayer and she's damn near orgasmic! However, there may be better cams out there, I agree with white as well, to an extent.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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the wider the lobe separation, the better for the dope, but worse for N/A. like people have said, you can always up the dope shot. its just that tighter lobe separations wastes more dope, but if you up the shot, you CAN make the same power. you'll just go through bottles faster for the same rwhp increase than you would with a wider LSA.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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The RPM 2 cam is sposed to love nitrous. Stock cams are fine too I did 500hp 600+tq spinning on the dyno
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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what about the 2 big TSP cams? The MS3 and the Giant? I know it says the Giant is for big cube motors but if I have good flowing heads would that be could for a good middle point for power between NA & Spray?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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I have been very happy with the results the MS3 gave me. I feel it gives pretty good power N/A and works well with the nitrous. Deffinatly not an over hyper cam. At street night with a measly 150 shot and 2.5" duals my car runs 10.6 at about 130mph with room to improve. It really got fun when I uncork the exhaust and crank up the nitrous. The thing I like most about the MS3 is the drivability, other than the lope, the car drives like it's stock.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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I have been very happy with the results the MS3 gave me. I feel it gives pretty good power N/A and works well with the nitrous. Deffinatly not an over hyper cam. At street night with a measly 150 shot and 2.5" duals my car runs 10.6 at about 130mph with room to improve. It really got fun when I uncork the exhaust and crank up the nitrous. The thing I like most about the MS3 is the drivability, other than the lope, the car drives like it's stock.
What stall do you have? Youre running 2.73s on that cam? MS3 is same as magicstick right? Everybodys been telling me to i need at least 3500 stall and 4.10s with that cam. How much you spraying again to turn 10.10s? BTW very impressive numbers
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I'm running a 3500 stall with a 2.5 str and the 2.73s. It's not that bad, N/A from a bottom of second roll it's alittle slugish but the nitrous makes up for that quick. In an auto nitrous car 4.10s would probrably be to much (you'd probrably have to run a big tire), 3.73s would probrably work well. For an N/A only set up it would probrably like a 4,400 stall.

MS3=Magic Stick 3, or sometimes MSv3.

To go low 10s I'm running a 2 stage wet/dry set up. It's about a 225 shot at the crank.
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Hmmm... How about an Ed Curtis (EDC) special? Mine is 231/242 .637/.622 @ 114* and she loves the juice *Ed, if your reading this, I forgot to send you feedback already sorry* The cam runs pretty damn good for such a mismatched gearing (3.23), but soon the 3.50 9" will be here. Daily Driven and loven it, weekend sprayer and she's damn near orgasmic! However, there may be better cams out there, I agree with white as well, to an extent.
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I wouldnt use the Trex with nitrous...only on a max effort NA engine would it shine. A nice exhaust split on a 114LSA like the juice very well. Just depends how high you want to spin the motor that determines the intake duration....
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