just a few ?s
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just a few ?s 
so thats my old dyno sheet with my MTI C2 cam, headers, TDs and a lid.
is the AF safe for me to use a 150 wet shot?
and i know youre supposed to pull 1-2* of timing for every 50 shot, but how do you do that? my tuner is all the way in Md, and its a long drive. what software can pull timing for me?
what would be the safest way for me to go?
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well, if memory serves me right....i think my timing is mid 20's. i contacted my tuner, and asked him and he said he thinks the timing might be too high. but hes in the office and not at home, so he cant be sure right now.
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You will be safe with a wet kit as long as you have a fuel pump and other saftey features. Since you dont have any thing to tune with your self i would suggest a timming tunner for the nitrous so you can run more timming NA and then pull some when you spray.
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well, i think im running about 28* of timing as it sits now. 1MEANGTO is at 29 and his car loves it....so i should be good, right??
i plan on using a FPSS, WOT switch and Window switch.
HSW sent me a pm about a timing tuner, but it was like 250 bucks. im only spending 400 on the whole nitrous kit...so 250 is a little steep.
i plan on using a FPSS, WOT switch and Window switch.
HSW sent me a pm about a timing tuner, but it was like 250 bucks. im only spending 400 on the whole nitrous kit...so 250 is a little steep.
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Well since you are running a wet kit and not a dry kit you may or may not be ok im not saying you will need it im just saying you cant pick up a new motor for $250 it is just kind of insurance. I like to be on the safe side. getting on a dyno and logging for knock would be the only sure way to tell if you need it or if you have some thing that can scan for knock. I have hp tunners so its not a problem for me if your in ohio any time let me know and i will help you out. 
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ok, this seems to be the kit im going to get....heres a list of whats included:
Bottle heater kit 6 an
Micro switch – wot
Billet nitrous filter
10 lb w/high flow valve
Nos solenoid
Gas solenoid
100 to 250 jets
All the braided lines from solenoids to nozzles
18 feet braided lines all relays and wires and instruction sheet
Mounting brackets and bolts.
what else do i need?
i think ill need a FPSS, window switch and where do i put the nozzles? can i just buy a plate and turn it into a plate system?
Bottle heater kit 6 an
Micro switch – wot
Billet nitrous filter
10 lb w/high flow valve
Nos solenoid
Gas solenoid
100 to 250 jets
All the braided lines from solenoids to nozzles
18 feet braided lines all relays and wires and instruction sheet
Mounting brackets and bolts.
what else do i need?
i think ill need a FPSS, window switch and where do i put the nozzles? can i just buy a plate and turn it into a plate system?
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6
HSW sent me a pm about a timing tuner, but it was like 250 bucks. im only spending 400 on the whole nitrous kit...so 250 is a little steep.
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im still not 100% that this is what im going to get.
im looking at used kits now, and i have a few in mind. but could i just buy a plate and make it a plate system?
im looking at used kits now, and i have a few in mind. but could i just buy a plate and make it a plate system?
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Like has been said already, generally you don't need to pull any timing up to 150hp. Also, the stock fuel system is usually considered ok up to 500-550rwhp, so you're probably ok there although I generally recommend going ahead and upgrading the fuel system when you install the nitrous system because you will only want more, and upgrading the fuel system now will save you some time in the future.
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so even though my timing is already at like 28*, ill be good with a 150 shot?
i was thinking about a fuel pump, but i wanna get it all hooked up and see if i need it or not.
i was thinking about a fuel pump, but i wanna get it all hooked up and see if i need it or not.
What grade fuel do you want to run? Pump gas? Then I would talk some more with your tuner, I personally wouldn't spray it on pump with the timing advanced. You can pull it out and run the stock timing or run a higher octane fuel. Better to play it safe, then to be sorry later.
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well, i ended up picking up a TNT F1 kit, and it should be here in a few days.
im going to install the kit myself, and have a friend with EFI Live come to a dyno with me to go some logging.
then if i need to ill start pulling timing and richen her up so ill be safe
im going to install the kit myself, and have a friend with EFI Live come to a dyno with me to go some logging.
then if i need to ill start pulling timing and richen her up so ill be safe