sprayed 100 shot for the 1st time!
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sprayed 100 shot for the 1st time! I had a 70 shot to test the system out months ago. All was good so i changed the jets to 100 shot and tryed it out today.
I have 2.73 gears. I took off from a green light and floored it. as soon as it hit 3500rpm the car roared and i could feel the back end going sideways a little. My brother was in the other lane in his GTA and he said you could definitly tell when it hits. He said my car squated down a little and he could see a little white smoke from the tires!
Then i tried it from 45-95 (2nd gear). Man, did it pull nice! I had to slow down cause there was no more road. My bro was like 15 cars away.
The exhaust gets louder when it sprays. I liked it! Ive got a yank converter in the closet waiting to be installed. Cant wait to see what it feels like with both!
I have 2.73 gears. I took off from a green light and floored it. as soon as it hit 3500rpm the car roared and i could feel the back end going sideways a little. My brother was in the other lane in his GTA and he said you could definitly tell when it hits. He said my car squated down a little and he could see a little white smoke from the tires!
Then i tried it from 45-95 (2nd gear). Man, did it pull nice! I had to slow down cause there was no more road. My bro was like 15 cars away.
The exhaust gets louder when it sprays. I liked it! Ive got a yank converter in the closet waiting to be installed. Cant wait to see what it feels like with both!
Originally Posted by CAT3
Oh wait til you put that Yank in...Oh man your going to poop yourself! GL and enjoy...
Get the stall in. Dont forget to add a trans cooler and get a tire that can hook. Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by 1 BLOWN V8
Get the stall in. Dont forget to add a trans cooler and get a tire that can hook.got the meziere flex plate
got the ARP bolts
got the poly mount
got the nittos
Im ready to go!
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Verdad Gallardo cool, i was looking at doing the same, did you have to do anything but install the kit? any tunning or supportive mods? I like the idle of dry cuz it either works or does'nt. if the nitrous does'nt spray, i just loose. if the FUEL did not spray on a wet system..... ouch.
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Originally Posted by autodad
cool, i was looking at doing the same, did you have to do anything but install the kit? any tunning or supportive mods? I like the idle of dry cuz it either works or does'nt. if the nitrous does'nt spray, i just loose. if the FUEL did not spray on a wet system..... ouch.
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well i have the 5177nos kit with:
nx switches
purge
nx bottle heater
msd window switch (a must have)
nx bottle opener
ngk tr-6 plugs (a must have)
had to do all the wiring myself. it was a PITA. It wasent working at first, so i had to diagnose the entire system! turns out i had the armed & heater wires crossed. After going through all that diagnosing i feel like an expert on this ****!
nx switches
purge
nx bottle heater
msd window switch (a must have)
nx bottle opener
ngk tr-6 plugs (a must have)
had to do all the wiring myself. it was a PITA. It wasent working at first, so i had to diagnose the entire system! turns out i had the armed & heater wires crossed. After going through all that diagnosing i feel like an expert on this ****!
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Originally Posted by autodad
cool, i was looking at doing the same, did you have to do anything but install the kit? any tunning or supportive mods? I like the idle of dry cuz it either works or does'nt. if the nitrous does'nt spray, i just loose. if the FUEL did not spray on a wet system..... ouch.
Don't you have that backwards??
I was always told a wet set-up is safer because you don't rely your MAF senser And hope your injectors don't lock up??
On a wet set-up you pull from the fual rail so you'll always have fuel unless your fuel pump goes? but if your pump goes on a dry set-up your screwed to.
you just have fuel puddling to worry about, but from what I've seen and read it's not that big of a problem.
please someone correct me if I'm wrong. I love to learn new stuff
Originally Posted by BLACKBIRD8200
Don't you have that backwards??
I was always told a wet set-up is safer because you don't rely your MAF senser And hope your injectors don't lock up??
On a wet set-up you pull from the fual rail so you'll always have fuel unless your fuel pump goes? but if your pump goes on a dry set-up your screwed to.
you just have fuel puddling to worry about, but from what I've seen and read it's not that big of a problem.
please someone correct me if I'm wrong. I love to learn new stuff
I was always told a wet set-up is safer because you don't rely your MAF senser And hope your injectors don't lock up??
On a wet set-up you pull from the fual rail so you'll always have fuel unless your fuel pump goes? but if your pump goes on a dry set-up your screwed to.
you just have fuel puddling to worry about, but from what I've seen and read it's not that big of a problem.
please someone correct me if I'm wrong. I love to learn new stuff
I'm no pro myself man, I am only repeating what I have read and heard... but from what I understand it's a matter of opinion. with a wet set up you are depending completely on that fuel solenoid if it fails the nitrous solenoid will still spray and you pop your motor... if you have a dry set up you depend on your OEM fuel set up (lot less chance of failing) so basically you get on a dyno or install a wideband and start spraying small, then jet it up until you feel your a/f's are perfect or you don't want to go any leaner. and your done. it will always be what it is, so long as your bottle pressure is the same.... in my opinion its the safest way to go. when people do a wet system I here the rule of thumb is to change your solenoids every year because like I said or like I heard if that fuel solenoid goes your done... BUT if you want to spray big you cannot depend on that OEM fuel system at least not without modifying it and then you lose that OEM reliability IMO.... If or when I spray big I am defiantly going wet. but until I get board I will stick with a small dry shot because I feel its safer..... just my 2 cents, pros please feel free to correct me if im wrong I have never used nitrous and don't want to give out wrong info.... thanks, Steve.
Your reasoning is sound..
I don't think you'll find many people who change fuel solenoids that often, but some people floss twice daily too.
It's a fairly often contested subject - anyone who is considering either system would do well to read from owners of both.
I don't think you'll find many people who change fuel solenoids that often, but some people floss twice daily too.
It's a fairly often contested subject - anyone who is considering either system would do well to read from owners of both.
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I just bought a ZEX wet system. If you read their sales brochure, they themselves claim the wet system is safer. I had corresponded with another brand of kit seller; same advice. BLACKBIRD8200 is saying the same thing as the kit makers. One thing he didn't mention is that on some kits you get an in-line auxiliary fuel pump to boost pressure. If that fails, you have a lean situation. A dry kit without the in-line pump relies on the ability of the fuel system to deliver more than the factory spec fuel delivery through the injectors. A wet system requires more fuel at the rail. If the MAF doesn't correctly respond to the nitrous spray for one reason or another, you can have a rich or lean condition. As said above, the added pressure on the injectors with big dry applications have been a cause for stock injector(s) to lock. That is why some have recommended swapping out to the Bosch injectors when using a dry kit.
Basically the failure of a wet kit's fuel enrichment solenoid, electrical wiring to it or a plugged fuel enrichment delivery line are the critical issues. It's an easy thing to test the solenoids before spraying with the nitrous and engine off. With a dry kit you have fuel pressure that has to be increased, injector lock and a reliance on the accuracy of the maf sensor to consider.
This is the first thread I've encountered where people have posted that the dry kit is considered safer.
If that's really a pic of you on a mountain in Afghanistan? - Thanks for putting your life on the line for the rest of us!
Basically the failure of a wet kit's fuel enrichment solenoid, electrical wiring to it or a plugged fuel enrichment delivery line are the critical issues. It's an easy thing to test the solenoids before spraying with the nitrous and engine off. With a dry kit you have fuel pressure that has to be increased, injector lock and a reliance on the accuracy of the maf sensor to consider.
This is the first thread I've encountered where people have posted that the dry kit is considered safer.
If that's really a pic of you on a mountain in Afghanistan? - Thanks for putting your life on the line for the rest of us!
wett is just as safe as dry and wett will produce better torque numbers from my experience of seeing lots of both dynoed. my little wet kit on a 100 shot gave me more than 150 tq
Originally Posted by 2001z
wett is just as safe as dry and wett will produce better torque numbers from my experience of seeing lots of both dynoed. my little wet kit on a 100 shot gave me more than 150 tq