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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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HSW uses the same plate on their wet kits as they do their dry kit and I've wondered how the Nitrous Outlet plate would do if used the same way.

I know that the HSW Interface would be needed regardless but I just like the way the Nitrous Outlet plate looks a little better
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Main difference is the HWS plate is gonna provide the perimeter style distribution, as opposed to the Nitrous Outlet plate, which will spray out of a single port (much like a single nozzle).....it should probably work, just won't distribute as well. I'd probably order the plate, Interface, etc...all at the same time from the same place

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Originally Posted by 01 Red WS6
HSW uses the same plate on their wet kits as they do their dry kit and I've wondered how the Nitrous Outlet plate would do if used the same way.

I know that the HSW Interface would be needed regardless but I just like the way the Nitrous Outlet plate looks a little better
We are still having a great sale on the plate kits. If you notice the price already includes the interface. But to answer your question, yes you could do that.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TARZAN
Main difference is the HWS plate is gonna provide the perimeter style distribution, as opposed to the Nitrous Outlet plate, which will spray out of a single port (much like a single nozzle).....it should probably work, just won't distribute as well. I'd probably order the plate, Interface, etc...all at the same time from the same place

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wrong, dave's plate has multiple distribution orficies.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by algws6
wrong, dave's plate has multiple distribution orficies.

Correct,
Our plate has 12 total distribution ports, 6ea for Nitrous and fuel.

It can be used for a dry kit, but as stated before would require another device for fuel enrichment.

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you could either cap the fuel side and run a single stage...or run the fuel side as a second stage
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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One of the best parts about using the plate as a dry system is that you can still use the fuel side as a second stage rather then plugging it. Using a dry plate was never possible before the "Interface" and i really think it has helped to even the playing field between wet and dry kits. We do offer the only plate with a full 360 spray pattern. this optimizes your distribution of nitrous into the intake manifold which is a bigger factor when going dry.
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hey mike, how would you run the interface with a two stage dry plate? say 100 comming on at 3k and another 100 coming on at 4.5k. thanks.
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I was gonna ask, when running a dry kit after the MAF how does the car add fuel, other then in the base tune (making it PIG rich)
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with HSW's new interface. it connect inline with the maf and allows you to dail in your a/f with switches. it also pulls timing.
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Originally Posted by algws6
wrong, dave's plate has multiple distribution orficies.

Thanks for correcting my, my apologies....I was ill-informed

-Will
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I was gonna ask, when running a dry kit after the MAF how does the car add fuel, other then in the base tune (making it PIG rich)
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The Interface makes Air to Fuel adjustments using your Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor. Simply program The Interface as to what size shot you are running (adjustable from 5 HP to 315 HP in 5 HP increments). Full control over the A/F curve is now possible, allowing fuel to be added or subtracted. Timing control is done with the vehicles IAT Sensor. The Interface has a built in Diagnostics Mode & Safety Features. If the Interface detects anything wrong with the MAF Sensor it will not allow the nitrous system to become operational and trigger a Service Engine Soon (SES) light until the issue is resolved.
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Originally Posted by algws6
hey mike, how would you run the interface with a two stage dry plate? say 100 comming on at 3k and another 100 coming on at 4.5k. thanks.
The base interface sold on the website was not designed for a two stage. Fortunately, if you give us a call you can custom order one. As the description in the base model states, the increments go up to 315 shots. If you call us we can outfit the interface to go higher than that. The same goes with the 2 stage, we can outfit it to work on both stages.
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sweet. so from 3k to 4.5k i can command an 11.8 afr on the 100 shot and from 4.5 onward i can command an 11.0 afr on the 200 total shot?
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Originally Posted by algws6
sweet. so from 3k to 4.5k i can command an 11.8 afr on the 100 shot and from 4.5 onward i can command an 11.0 afr on the 200 total shot?
its not quite as simple as picking those ratios. based on the size of the shot you can adjust your fuel up or down with the interface. if your too lean then at 12.0 then you can add more fuel and get it back down. the interface does not detect your a/f and adjust accordingly. you need a widenband to tell where the ratio is at and how much fuel you want to take out or add back.
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im sorry if i wasn't clear, i am using a wideband. what i am wondering if it can be adjusted to add two different amounts of fuel, a certain amount for the first stage and a different amount when both stages are active.
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Originally Posted by algws6
im sorry if i wasn't clear, i am using a wideband. what i am wondering if it can be adjusted to add two different amounts of fuel, a certain amount for the first stage and a different amount when both stages are active.
yes it can do that. but like i said, it would have to be put in as a custom order. the one for sale on the site is just for single stage. im was just saying you cant plug in the a/f you want and it will adjust. it will take a little tweaking to get it dialed in exactly where you want it to be.
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thanks. thats excatly what i wanted to know. that should make for a sick two stage dry using a plate.
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Originally Posted by Mike@HSW
One of the best parts about using the plate as a dry system is that you can still use the fuel side as a second stage rather then plugging it. Using a dry plate was never possible before the "Interface" and i really think it has helped to even the playing field between wet and dry kits. We do offer the only plate with a full 360 spray pattern. this optimizes your distribution of nitrous into the intake manifold which is a bigger factor when going dry.

Do you happen to have any pictures of plate installs? I've found 3 different installs including the one on your site.
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Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
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Our plate has 12 total distribution ports, 6ea for Nitrous and fuel.

It can be used for a dry kit, but as stated before would require another device for fuel enrichment.

you could either cap the fuel side and run a single stage...or run the fuel side as a second stage
I was actually thinking of running a Y off the noid to use both the nitrous and fuel sides
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I was actually thinking of running a Y off the noid to use both the nitrous and fuel sides

that can be done also, but you will have to split the jetting across each side, just like a dual nozzle. This limits your overall jetting options.

single side 100hp = .052 jet
both sides 100hp = .035 jet x 2

either way will work fine.
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