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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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ok guys thanks for the info
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by QucikSilver
Will Torco be good for the 200-250 range of should I go ahead and use race gas?
On the big shots you want to run race fuel. If anything, it will give you one less thing to worry about.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by QucikSilver
What's wrong with the octane booster. I ran race gas every once in a while but the VP booster or the NOS booster seemed to do the trick.

If you are trusting your engines life to octane booster that is whats wrong, if you are relying on octane booster then you need to evaluate your setup, i.e. get a proper tune, off the shelf octane boosters supposedly only raise octane .1 point not 1 point.

Nothing "wrong" with octane booster except that people think it does what it does NOT do.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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If you are trusting your engines life to octane booster that is whats wrong, if you are relying on octane booster then you need to evaluate your setup, i.e. get a proper tune, off the shelf octane boosters supposedly only raise octane .1 point not 1 point.

Nothing "wrong" with octane booster except that people think it does what it does NOT do.
I ran octane booster just to give a little help on motor. I went on race gas for bottle I just got tired of replacing O2 sensors from the race gas. I tried to seek out other alternatives.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
On the big shots you want to run race fuel. If anything, it will give you one less thing to worry about.
Do you know of anyone that makes a seperate 1 gallon cell for under the hood to use just for nitrous. Is there a kit for the car or would I just have to piece it together?
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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HSW makes a good one for a great price.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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I guess for now I will just start with a 150 and tune from there.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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I would say that it depends on your tune. With a safe tune a 200 on a stock rotating assembly will last a while. As to how long, depends on the wear of the internals and the tune. Running forged pistons with good rods and rod bolts a 250 on a conservative tune should be ok. It's all in the tune. Start small and work your way up slowly and safely.
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Originally Posted by QucikSilver
I ran octane booster just to give a little help on motor. I went on race gas for bottle I just got tired of replacing O2 sensors from the race gas. I tried to seek out other alternatives.
Ah I see, that sucks, but like I said I believe the octane boosters only raise the octane .1 point i.e. 93 octane goes to 93.1 not 94, I "think" that is what it was, but you may look into that before using it anymore, especially with how much a little bottle of that crap costs.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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is it fine to use octane booster for a small shot? like 75-125?
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Originally Posted by QucikSilver
I want to know what is a safe shot for this motor. Mahle 3.905 forged pistons, Scat H-Beams forged rods, stock crank, all ARP, and balanced. The shop said these are not nitrous pistons or rings but I keep getting different opinions. The shop that built it said no more than a 150 but others say 250 is fine.

What are your opinions???
Forged pistons, even non n2o specific and forged rods will help a bunch. Dedicated nitrous pistons have a thicker ring land, where as stockish style don't. That's what will break first on a non n2o piston or stock piston, the land. Detonation is normally the source of trouble and yes race will give a slight safety advantage in this regard. Now with that said, your motor could handle a 300 shot with a spot on tune. Get the timing down and race gas and plugs etc. It just depends on how far you want to push it. The 200 range would be a breeze for that motor with a good tune. In my fquick in sig in pics section of my Z06 is pictures of a piston of mine that broke the ring land for insight.

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A blowout will destroy any plastic manifold. It just hurts a little more when that intake costs a grand.

The FAST will let you run higher RPM before it runs out of breath.

Towards the end of last year I felt like the LS6 was turning into a bottleneck for the 200 shot. I am keeping my LS6 just out of need though.
The ls6 intake will become a bottle neck only in n/a concerns. here's why: The nitrous sprayed displaces the same volume of air so your not putting any more volume into the motor than you are n/a. It's when the nitrous releases the oxy at temp in the clyinder that we get more volume and thus the need to address the exhaust side of sprayed cars with our cam choices and head work and headers and cat delete, at least after getting to a certain hit size per each car. So I guess what I am saying is, the intake is more of a consideration for n/a power than sprayed power and addressing the exhaust side sounds like it would help you out more if your loosing something on the top end while spraying. I know I have run into this with my stock exhaust and going big. Just something to think about.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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That's why I'll be rocking some 1 7/8's next year. I have been seriously considering keeping the LS6, and seeing how far I can take it, but I think I have a line on a free FAST 78. I know it won't be much of an improvement, but anything helps, especially since it's free.
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