E85 in Western Washington!
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E85 in Western Washington! I've been eagerly awaiting the arrival of E85 at gas stations around here, and I just found out that there is a station in Marysville that sells E85 at the pump! E85 has an octane rating of about 105, so for any of you guys on here with standalone engine management, this would be a good (read: cheap!) alternative to race fuel, that you can run on the street and not break the bank. I couldn't find a phone number for the station to check on the price, but I'm guessing it will be around the price of regular gasoline or cheaper.
http://www.usethanolnw.com/biofuelstations.html
I have table switching enabled on my car so I'm going to start using this station ASAP!
http://www.usethanolnw.com/biofuelstations.html
I have table switching enabled on my car so I'm going to start using this station ASAP!
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don't your injectors have to be pretty much twice the flow of what you'd use for gas?
That's good to hear though, in the next couple years I'd like to go FI and it'd be nice to go E85 if it becomes more prominent in the area.
That's good to hear though, in the next couple years I'd like to go FI and it'd be nice to go E85 if it becomes more prominent in the area.
Last edited by HitmanLSX; Dec 31, 2008 at 03:44 PM.
Yes you need 70% bigger injectors. I tried running it on my race bike engine, and we had the stock dual injectors maxxed and still was way too lean. I was running 15:1 compression ratio. We then put in C12 and the bike wouldn't even start it was so rich from the mapping with E85. Just FYI
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You should need about 30% more fuel than before. It's not for everybody, but if you size your stuff the first time around and have the means to control it you can reap the massive benefits. I have 65lb/hr injectors on my Volvo and those should be good for like 300hp on E85 so I'll probably have to get a 4 bar FPR but that's pretty cheap.
A fun fact, the reason the ZR1 isn't designated as flex fuel capable is because they didn't want to sacrifice the low engine speed driveability due to the 30% larger injectors that would be required. It already has a dual fuel pressure system to deal with driveability, but I hear they are planning to make some changes so it will be able to run on E85 in the next couple years (if they are still around, I sure hope so..)
A fun fact, the reason the ZR1 isn't designated as flex fuel capable is because they didn't want to sacrifice the low engine speed driveability due to the 30% larger injectors that would be required. It already has a dual fuel pressure system to deal with driveability, but I hear they are planning to make some changes so it will be able to run on E85 in the next couple years (if they are still around, I sure hope so..)
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From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
I was looking at it for the turbo truck..about two years ago before I got the D-Max. still to hard to find to use it in that rigg. Maybe by the time I build it 
I'm still in KS for christmas.....anyways the other day I stopped by a gas station and they were selling it too. It was $1.14 This was at just a regular gas station....I thought it was pretty cool.
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From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
I want to say i was buying a pretty heavy mix in Kansas back in the late 80s also.
When I ran it the car got like 11MPG instead of 15MPG but it sure ran cool!
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