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If you guys do make it to the National Open, feel free to stop by the trailer. (You're invited too Mullet Boy 
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Forgive me if we're thrashing trying to get any new combo blues figured out...
Don's right. Super Street is only a .500 Pro Light, but given the electronics and how many races many S/ST guys run in that trim, I wouldn't recommend it for a new bracket racer. In Super Gas at a Division race, you should plan on have .025 thou packages or less, and MANY times, that won't be enough (sometimes you get lucky too, all as a part of racing
).... There are guys in these 2 classes that are GOOD. .003-.008 lights consistently, AND they know how to race the big end.
)Forgive me if we're thrashing trying to get any new combo blues figured out...
Don's right. Super Street is only a .500 Pro Light, but given the electronics and how many races many S/ST guys run in that trim, I wouldn't recommend it for a new bracket racer. In Super Gas at a Division race, you should plan on have .025 thou packages or less, and MANY times, that won't be enough (sometimes you get lucky too, all as a part of racing
).... There are guys in these 2 classes that are GOOD. .003-.008 lights consistently, AND they know how to race the big end. 
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Thanks for the info Kurtis! I'll go try the Pro Bracket & see how I do. Good points about the electronics cars. They ALL cut good lights, and seem to have 9 sec cars they sandbag into the 10.xx classes. Hard to compete with that since my goal was to run an honest 10.90 flat-out. And personally since I'm still dialing my car in, I wouldn't even think about going to a nat'l event at this point. But we may come watch. If we do, we'll try to find you.
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A friend of mine Jeff Jackson runs Super Street in his Mustang. It's not really Sandbagging, its just throttle stop racin.... His is one of th fastest in the northwest10.90 at 150+...
I ran Super Gas for a few races 2 yars ago. 9.90@172 on the throttle stop for 4.5 seconds. Decided it wasn't much fun when you're trying to judge the stripe at the big end, when the guy in the other lane was running 9.90@135. :/
I ran Super Gas for a few races 2 yars ago. 9.90@172 on the throttle stop for 4.5 seconds. Decided it wasn't much fun when you're trying to judge the stripe at the big end, when the guy in the other lane was running 9.90@135. :/
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10.90 @ 150+, 9.90 @ 170+? 
Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother.
Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother. 
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
10.90 @ 150+, 9.90 @ 170+? Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother.
Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother.Trust me - adding all that "electronics and stuff" doesn't make it any easier. There's just way more ways to lose - by a bunch. That's why you see the handful of racers that always win - same as brackets.
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
That is why most of us say electronics racing is gay!
I'm not real big on the whole throttle stop deal either, but ya know what, some of THE BEST racers run in Super Gas and the other T-Stop classes.... For those that don't know the class Top Comp that I run in is NOT a throttle stop class, and is essentially just like Super Pro except much faster with a 48 car qualified field (8.19 minimum). Here's qualifying from Phoenix about a month ago.
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=109782
Ellis, should I feel ashamed of my Wally just because I won it in an electronics car?
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
So are you saying I should run the Pro Class? So that's 7.50 to 13.99 bracket with DOT tires & no electronics? Knowing some of the people that run that class (you, Bill, John, Sherri in the red Stang) it should give me some good practice if I am having a good day. Otherwise I will still be runner up in the 1st round. 
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Originally Posted by NWDragRacer
Deep staging is continuing to pull in until the top bulb is off. Hurts your ET, but quickens up your RT. Each inch deeper is worth about .010 quicker reaction time. You guys who are having trouble being consistant at the tree should make sure that you are staging *EXACTLY* in the same place every time. That's why you see racers just flickering the bottom bulb - to make sure that they know where they are.
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
What class would you be able to run in Don? ET Brackets? I had thought about going just to test the waters in the 10.90 Super Street class, even tho I understand most of those cars run electronics, so I'd go out early. But it would be fun to try......once!
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I was in NO way dissing guys that race with electronics. You still have to dial your car in, and drive it to win. I just don't care for watching FAST cars that run slow on purpose. It just feels wrong to me. I don't sandbag in CCC either. I dial what I think I can run, & then try to run what I dialed. But that's just my way....not necessarily the right / best way, just mine. That said, I only have 1 trophy to my name, and it AINT a Wally!!! 
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
10.90 @ 150+, 9.90 @ 170+? Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother.
Sorry, to me it's sandbagging. I know, the way the class is setup, you do it with a throttle stop at the beginning. But like Ellis said.....well OK, I'll be nice. To me that aint real racing, even tho I am quite sure it does take a lot of skill to consistently run your number. But watching a FAST car launch, shut down & coast for 2-6 seconds, and then come alive and run a hi 10 when it could have made a 7 or 8 second pass just leaves me felling like I kissed my grandmother.I see it as more of an exact time run instead of a true race. And trying to dial in the delay box and all the other weather factors on those S/G-S/C cars to run an exact 9.90 or 8.90 is a science experiment every run.
I can't wait for the season to begin.
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Originally Posted by Rokko
That's what I'm going to have to get used to this year. Chris' car is capable of a high 7 second pass but runs the 9.90 S\G class. It's so weird, launch like a ****, shut down for a while, then come on strong to go 170+ and 9.90 in the quarter.
I see it as more of an exact time run instead of a true race. And trying to dial in the delay box and all the other weather factors on those S/G-S/C cars to run an exact 9.90 or 8.90 is a science experiment every run.
I can't wait for the season to begin.
I see it as more of an exact time run instead of a true race. And trying to dial in the delay box and all the other weather factors on those S/G-S/C cars to run an exact 9.90 or 8.90 is a science experiment every run.
I can't wait for the season to begin.
As for the racing forecast, it's supposed to rain pretty much from now until April 22nd.
Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
Yeah, I can imagine it is very tough to get used to / good at that style.....
As for the racing forecast, it's supposed to rain pretty much from now until April 22nd.
As for the racing forecast, it's supposed to rain pretty much from now until April 22nd.
Oh well, now we can go to Hooties for the bday celebration.
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Originally Posted by Rokko
Chris' car is capable of a high 7 second pass but runs the 9.90 S\G class. It's so weird, launch like a ****, shut down for a while, then come on strong to go 170+ and 9.90 in the quarter.
Originally Posted by KTamez
Is his car a roadster or a regular Doorcar? If its a Doorcar, he should enter Top Sportsman Friday nites at the division races. 8.49 minimum, all run, and another chance at a Wally. $100 entry pays out 100%, $500 bonus for winner, contingency, and even a year end points fund of $1000 for the season. He can turn the Throttle stop off, run it flat out in Top Sportsman Friday, and still run Super Gas all weekend (don't lose any S/G Time trials).
I want to get some pix of it to post up but I layed down ~50ft worth of rubber in front of his house wednesday night and his wifey is none too pleased with me right now. Gotta wait until she's cooled down a bit before I show my face there again.
Originally Posted by KTamez
Is your friend "Chris", Chris Cannon w/ Barcelon's old car? Purple Vette w/ flames.... That is a nice piece, and Chris is a good racer. You guys will do just fine this season.
We picked it up from the paint shop on Tuesday night. 