Back form the auto show in Canada.
Back form the auto show in Canada. Had a great time! Drank a little too much at the Casino. Car did awesome with the new cam! Can't wait to run a bottle of N20 through it.
Anyway lots of great cars. The Camaro looks Awesome in person! I love it!
The new GM trucks are very nice too! I really liked the new CTS Took a bunch of pictures.
Here are few.
Anyway lots of great cars. The Camaro looks Awesome in person! I love it!
The new GM trucks are very nice too! I really liked the new CTS Took a bunch of pictures.
Here are few.
You have to see them in person. The even the guy I was with said the pictures of the Camaro don't do it justice. In person the Camaro looks so much better than the Challenger.
Looking at both of them I'm leaning towards the Camaro now, where before I thought the Challenger was better. Its *** end(camaro) is one hell of a lot meaner looking than the Challenger. Front end of the camaro also lookes meaner. The Challenger has a nice front end but the grill looks like they borrowed it from the Charger. The back end could be done better as well. I dont like that big light bar. It softens the appearance and makes it look like like a fat old ladies *** in an orange dress.
Now slap a Cuda back end on there and you might have something. The more that Challenger is around the more I appreaciate the hard lines on the Camaro. The Challenger is just to soft looking. Bring out a Cuda retro and lets see something.
Now slap a Cuda back end on there and you might have something. The more that Challenger is around the more I appreaciate the hard lines on the Camaro. The Challenger is just to soft looking. Bring out a Cuda retro and lets see something.
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From: Mill Creek
Originally Posted by ram-it
The car to wait for will be the new CTS-V. It is going to be a real bad ***. Think E55/E63 slayer with a 7.0L.
When you look in your rearview mirror and see a CTS-V it will say:
"You can move out of my way NOW thank you."
While the Camaro will say:
"You can get the **** out of my way or I'll run your *** over!"
I may be maturing but I'm still a Camaro kind of guy.
I like that new CTSV........the grill looks sweet like that. I wish I could have seen it in person. Many times I've see pics of cars then you see them in person and you hate it. Of Visa Versa!!
Know what I mean??
Know what I mean??
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From: Charlie Town, WV
Mike, nice pics, no FORDS though?
Before I get FLAMED...and I know you guys will...let me say this.
I am not just bashing here because it is a camaro, but the front of the damn thing looks like it ought to be in the chevron commercials... and the *** end...well I think it looks like ***
It looks like "cherish" but painted silver
http://www.chevroncars.com/meet/car/cherish/
The ? for you guys is how will they respond to mods? They look heavy...
I know, I could google and find out the specs, but too damn lazy at this point.
Will they beat a COBRA?
Ken
Before I get FLAMED...and I know you guys will...let me say this.
I am not just bashing here because it is a camaro, but the front of the damn thing looks like it ought to be in the chevron commercials... and the *** end...well I think it looks like ***
It looks like "cherish" but painted silver
http://www.chevroncars.com/meet/car/cherish/
The ? for you guys is how will they respond to mods? They look heavy...
I know, I could google and find out the specs, but too damn lazy at this point.
Will they beat a COBRA?
Ken
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From: Mill Creek
Originally Posted by kens03cobra
The ? for you guys is how will they respond to mods? They look heavy...
I know, I could google and find out the specs, but too damn lazy at this point.
Will they beat a COBRA?
Ken
Regarding the Challenger word on the forums is that it is heavy. Somewhere around 4000 lbs.
As for the Camaro there is a lot of rumor and speculation. GM has stated in numerous interviews though that weight is a critical issue and everything is being done to keep it down. Speculation is that it will weigh no more than a well optioned 4th Gen. The only other statements that have been captured from GM are that the handles will be different and to paraphrase Bob Lutz the only way he can identify the concept from the production version is by looking at the door handles. Instead of Engineers dictating styling by the required mechanicals beneath the skin when going from concept to production they have been told that they have to engineer a functioning car that will work under the existing skin.
As for power output, at the risk of starting another pissing contest I don't think GM has to worry about outperforming the Cobra. Everything I can offer is only speculation but... you don't see Chevy's top motor resorting to FI for competitive power just yet. Granted the Blue Devil/ SS is going FI but their target isn't a Mustang but something with a little more visibility on the global automotive scene.
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From: Charlie Town, WV
Thanks for the info, and not wanting a pissing contest either. I just like to give Mikie **** as we go back a ways.
If what I read is true, 400hp, and they weigh that much they wont even beat a stock COBRA...not that there are many of them around anymore
If what I read is true, 400hp, and they weigh that much they wont even beat a stock COBRA...not that there are many of them around anymore
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Thanks for the info, and not wanting a pissing contest either. I just like to give Mikie **** as we go back a ways.
If what I read is true, 400hp, and they weigh that much they wont even beat a stock COBRA...not that there are many of them around anymore
If what I read is true, 400hp, and they weigh that much they wont even beat a stock COBRA...not that there are many of them around anymore
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From: Charlie Town, WV
Originally Posted by jewbacca
Also, one more thing, as stock Terminator would get it's *** handed too it.
Hope I didn't start too much of a pissing match
Hope I didn't start too much of a pissing match
Too much pissing? C'mon, what are we here for anyhow
But I do have to disagree, with pretty much all you said.
I want to see the numbers of what it runs bone stock, then I guess we can really start pissing.
Because we know the Terms were very much underated... so how can you say that it would hand a stock one its ***, it is just about as fat at a Term and prolly less HP in reality..
I gotta go take a leak...
Ken
I took some Ford pictures. I took 157 all together, none at the nudity bar though.
I will post them if you guys want.
I got some of the New Bronco a Ford GT and a Shelby.
I will post them if you guys want.
I got some of the New Bronco a Ford GT and a Shelby.
Ken if the car is going to weigh as much as my T/A and have 90 more HP. It should easily run 12.60 to 12.90, right on par with an 03/04 Cobra. I went 13.17 in the T/A bone stock and 12.92 in the 01 Z28 bone stock, the 01-02 cars tend to be faster, better intake, better, cam, exhaust mandiflods. yada yada yada.
But it is simple if your car can run those numbers with 400 hp, why can't an F-body at the same weight with the same power do the same thing?
Did you miss math class Ken?
But it is simple if your car can run those numbers with 400 hp, why can't an F-body at the same weight with the same power do the same thing?
Did you miss math class Ken?
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Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Too much pissing? C'mon, what are we here for anyhow
But I do have to disagree, with pretty much all you said.
I want to see the numbers of what it runs bone stock, then I guess we can really start pissing.
Because we know the Terms were very much underated... so how can you say that it would hand a stock one its ***, it is just about as fat at a Term and prolly less HP in reality..
I gotta go take a leak...
Ken
But I do have to disagree, with pretty much all you said.
I want to see the numbers of what it runs bone stock, then I guess we can really start pissing.
Because we know the Terms were very much underated... so how can you say that it would hand a stock one its ***, it is just about as fat at a Term and prolly less HP in reality..
I gotta go take a leak...
Ken
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From: Charlie Town, WV
Originally Posted by My1st Truck
Ken if the car is going to weigh as much as my T/A and have 90 more HP. It should easily run 12.60 to 12.90, right on par with an 03/04 Cobra. I went 13.17 in the T/A bone stock and 12.92 in the 01 Z28 bone stock, the 01-02 cars tend to be faster, better intake, better, cam, exhaust mandiflods. yada yada yada.
But it is simple if your car can run those numbers with 400 hp, why can't an F-body at the same weight with the same power do the same thing?
Did you miss math class Ken?
But it is simple if your car can run those numbers with 400 hp, why can't an F-body at the same weight with the same power do the same thing?
Did you miss math class Ken?
2 things Michael
1. Yes, post up the damn pics...Please.
2. I agree with you and your math...I agree it "should" be right on par with the Terminators....my comment was due to the fact he said it would hand a Term his ***.. I don't believe that and from your post you don't either.
I guess we should ask chewy what he meant by "hand a term his ***" is that a bumper or half a car
depending on the actual numbers when they hit the streets, it could be just a drivers race...and you know I will win that one.
pics yo
Ken