PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Do you need O2's? 2 bar SD

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 26, 2010 | 08:20 PM
  #1  
pwrtrip75's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,386
Likes: 9
From: Janesville, WI
Default Do you need O2's? 2 bar SD

On a turbo application, HP Tuners 2 bar SD operating system... what do the front O2's do? Can I leave them out? rears are already long gone and shut off.
Reply
Old May 26, 2010 | 08:59 PM
  #2  
MUSTANGBRKR02's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (91)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,599
Likes: 5
From: Maine
Default

Fronts are closed loop. If they are out you will be running 2bar SD OL. Some people do it some don't. Most people who do are usually purpose driven cars. I myself am running 2 bar SD with front 02's.
Reply
Old May 26, 2010 | 09:07 PM
  #3  
Sh0wGoAt's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Default

^+1

i dont run 02's because i like running leaded race fuel and that kills 02's. but it is a pain in the *** sometimes when the weather starts changing alot as it can not adjust.
Reply
Old May 26, 2010 | 10:09 PM
  #4  
pwrtrip75's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,386
Likes: 9
From: Janesville, WI
Default

Reason I ask is my friends BMW we are building, we went through the harness and eliminated all the unneeded wires.... and I think they got eliminated. It would be a pain in the *** to probably rewire them. Just wondering if it will work w/o. Would it just take longer to tune and dial in the VE table? Like you'd have to tune it with each weather change?
Reply
Old May 27, 2010 | 07:05 AM
  #5  
darkhorizon's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Default

Front o2's I have found are easily fooled by weird cams and non pump gas, so I would ditch them in any case.

The problem is that with SD, your tune is going to be weather effected WAY more than a MAF tune would be, so the front o2's would help if you are going to do a 100% pump gas / stockish cam setup.

maf + no front o2's = awesome

SD + no front o2's = not so much.
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:50 PM
  #6  
maxgee's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,458
Likes: 5
From: Canton, Ga
Default

How about E85 running the front o2s?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:46 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE