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Old 08-23-2013, 02:38 PM
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Hi guys, I am about to purchase a turbo kit, and install it at home. However, I was just thinking about the tuning that will be needed. Whats the best way to go about this? I dont want to drive the car with the turbo/new fuel system parts, but a mail order tune wont exactly be "just right"... Whats the best way to go about getting this done?

Is the car safe to drive without a tune until I can get to a place to do it? Might have to drive about 80-100 miles? Or will a mail order be all I need?!?


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You will need a mail order tune or some sort of tune just to get it to run with bigger injectors. I wouldn't recommend driving a turbo setup without a tune.
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So, I have to pay for a mail order tune to drive the car for 45 min to get the real tune done? That seems a bit mundane no?
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You will be safe driving it without a tune as long as you keep the stock injectors, MAP, and MAF and don't go into boost. The LTFT's will account for any differences in fueling. You can drive it to the tuners and install the injectors in their shop or parking lot (and remove the MAF and swap MAP's if you're going SD) and then begin tuning.
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So, I have to pay for a mail order tune to drive the car for 45 min to get the real tune done? That seems a bit mundane no?
Dont take this the wrong way but you spent thousands on do a turbo install and now the one thing that will make your setup drivable and not blow you want to cheap out on.
If someone buys a mail order tune from us so they can drive to us we dont charge full price for the dyno tune. Have you asked your tuner if they do something like that? Not all do but its worth a shot to ask.
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So, I have to pay for a mail order tune to drive the car for 45 min to get the real tune done? That seems a bit mundane no?
There are these things called trailers...
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Originally Posted by LSX Power Tuning
Dont take this the wrong way but you spent thousands on do a turbo install and now the one thing that will make your setup drivable and not blow you want to cheap out on.
If someone buys a mail order tune from us so they can drive to us we dont charge full price for the dyno tune. Have you asked your tuner if they do something like that? Not all do but its worth a shot to ask.
These guys are really good, i have done two tunes with these guys, i go threw Lorenz, First tune was when i swapped to a M6 and the second was when i cammed 233/239 111LSA Good people there especially Lorenz

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There are these things called trailers...
The hell is that... i dont think F-bodys can pull trailers XD
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You will be safe driving it without a tune as long as you keep the stock injectors, MAP, and MAF and don't go into boost.
This will be your best bet if you don't want to splurge for an extra tune or a trailer/tow.

The car with stock injectors will drive fine at low throttle inputs as you won't really be building in boost by then, and with all the restriction from the manifolds and turbos, you won't be putting in anymore air than stock. Your trims should keep the car in check at that point.

Be sure to stay out of boost tho as at that point your tune will not know what to do with all that extra air.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
There are these things called trailers...
THIS....lol
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We are only in new castle if you want us to tune it. I can provide a base file for you so you can drive it over to the shop.
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Don't waste your money on a mail order tune. Leave the stock injectors in the car. Drive car and stay out of boost. When you get to the shop replace the stock injectors with the ones that you plan on using. This will take no longer than 30 minutes and save you money.
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Another advantage to driving it with stock injectors is you can check for any leaks or issues. Worst thing is wasting a tuners time on the dyno with little issues you could have fixed at home. Just seriously don't get excited and go into boost
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A uhaul is 58 buck for a day. I just did it when I finished my turbo build. These people aren't going to pay for your motor when/if it blows. Id spend the money on a trailer or even a tow tuck/carrier. JMO
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If he stays out of boost what's the problem?
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
If he stays out of boost what's the problem?
With bigger fuel pump, rails, and aftermarket regulator even with stock injectors it may not run that good. Depending on how the turbo setup was done it may not have a maf or required a larger maf, a lot more factors than just injectors that would affect driving it.
I wouldn't drive it untuned any, why risk hurting thousands of dollars of parts over a couple hundred tune or couple hundred renting a truck and trailer.
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Originally Posted by Frans96SS
We are only in new castle if you want us to tune it. I can provide a base file for you so you can drive it over to the shop.
Thats the best solution right there.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
There are these things called trailers...
If need be rent a Penske or Uhaul truck/trailer....
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
There are these things called trailers...
what this guy said! use the money for a mail order tune for a trailer. Could rent one from UHaul for 50 bucks


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