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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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2004 LQ4
Torquer V2 Cam 112 LSA, .598 lift iirc
42 Lbs Injectors
Lingenfelter MAF
100mm Throttle Body
Flipped Truck Intake
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Runs Mint. Starts up perfect. The motor stalls or nearly does when I get on the throttle and then back right off. Driving slow (which is what this thing will do most of the time) It does not like to idle. Stalls frequently, unless I apply the brakes to keep the rpms up and speed slow.


I have somebody who said they can come and tune it, but I am wondering if it is something worth trying to tackle myself? I would love to get into tuning as I plan to build more, but would like this thing ready for Spring


Any help would be greatly appreciated. It will have been three years building this come April and my last two issues are the only things I did not do myself....opposite of what I was expecting hahaha.

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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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First off have you done any scanning of the engine parameters? it could be running airflow, throttle follower, iac ect...
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 07:21 AM
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PM Sent.

I checked a few nothing jumped out, I think I remember the timing fluctuating a lot
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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Have you tried unplugging the MAF?
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by moehorsepower
Have you tried unplugging the MAF?
Back when I was having MAF and MAP fault codes. I will try it again tonight.
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I had an issue like that once, the car would idle fine but when you gave it gas it would stall, turned out to be the maf, hope that is whats wrong with yours, Now another thing, I dont know the frequency of the Lingenfelter maf, if its different then you would need a dump file, just like when people switch to the Z06 maf, I have to install a dump file then proceed to modify it...
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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I will have to get the part number for the maf sensor itself...its a standard off the shelf sensor.
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So, you're still running a stock tune on the list on your OP?
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Did you ever put in the correct data for the injectors?
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Tuned to the MAF and to the Injectors.
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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Unplug the MAF and it won't even start
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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Unplug the MAF and it won't even start
When you do this, do you get an immediate MAF DTC...?

If yes, then VE tables need work.

If no, the DTC table needs editing to allow immediate MAF DTC.
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by joecar
When you do this, do you get an immediate MAF DTC...?

If yes, then VE tables need work.

If no, the DTC table needs editing to allow immediate MAF DTC.
Good question, I will have to double check that. I don't remember seeing the CEL come on.
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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( the CEL may or may not illuminate when the DTC is present, it depends on how it's set in the tune )
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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Good to know. Thank you all for the help.
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Ok finally got to work on this thing again.

MAF is 12579352

I start it up and it runs fine. Pre warmed up I unplug the MAF not DTC, but I can easily tell a difference in how it runs, not bad...but a difference. I jump the gas, it doesnt stall in either MAF or unplugged MAF.

When warmed up with MAF plugged in and I jump on it, it stumbles...warmer it gets the more it wants to stall. Warmed up and unplug the MAF and it either stalls right out or stumbles really bad and idles very poorly at a low rpm.

A thing to note as well, it likes starting and idling less when warmed up.

Also when I unplug the MAF at any point it throws no code immediately. Next restart I get a pending 0101, a confirmed 0101 and a 0102.
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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You're MAF diagnostic codes are set to trigger the check engine light after 1 key cycle. That is a good setting for the MAF codes.

It simply sounds like your fuel tune is off. You need to disable MAF and all other contributors to AFR and then work on the VE table. Get it dialed in so you have small, positive fuel trims and then re-enable your MAF and tune the MAF table. It's time to just go back & basically start from scratch on that tune.
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Perfect thank you, that is what I needed to know.
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Do you have a honeycomb mesh on the MAF? The 100mm MAFs don't like jumpy airflow. I suggest getting a honeycomb from SaxonPC (My TSP has one installed) and it runs great with the MAF. Tune the VE table first by setting the MAF to 1 or 0 (Or unplug).
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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No honeycomb, ordering one now.
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