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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 11:17 AM
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Default help with 4l80e solenoid wiring for boost by gear

I'm having a bit of trouble imagining a way to make this work right.

My set up is stock pcm, 80e shifted by the computer from D (3)and an eBoost 2 controller

the eboost has 2 inputs I can use to trigger a "set point" ie a target boost pressure.

so I'm thinking I want to use 3 groups.

No trigger = lowest boost/1st gear

1st trigger = second gear

2nd trigger = 3rd gear


If I'm reading the schematic right I can just piggyback pin A&B on the trans connector and pull my triggers direct from the a & b solenoids (using a diode protected relay of course)

question 1 it looks like the solenoids are hot and triggered with a ground?

question 2 is that signal continuous or only during a shift?




bonus question:

I use a "sloppy brake" which throws the B solenoid to ground forcing 3rd and 1st to engage at the same time. this allows me to footbrake up on the converter.

How can I save that feature?

I dont want to build max boost on the line and my eboost controller will see that b solenoid trigger and go to the second boost target


thanks for any input. just starting to rewire the truck for next race season and want it all dialed from the get-go.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 12:36 AM
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Yes the ecm triggers a ground for the solenoid and all sensors as it takes the load to not burn out the ecm. It also runs in a 0-5v reference. It holds the signal or the default is 2nd gear. What is the E-boost looking for triggers? 12v, 5v +,-?
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 07:20 AM
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hey thanks for the reply. it needs a switch to ground.


might it be possible to have a second relay on my sloppy brake to isolate the circuit from the 3rd gear trigger using a normally open wired relay?
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 08:08 AM
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lol, you're going to force me into this aren't you.

The solenoids pass 12v through them to the PCM when their off, the PCM uses the 12v signal to verify they are working. It grounds them to turn them on. The ground is continuous when that solenoid is on.

4L80e solenoids work like this:
Solenoid A/B.

1st Gear, Solenoid A is on.
2nd Gear, no solenoids (this is why limp mode defaults to 2nd gear)
3rd Gear, Solenoid B is on.
4th Gear, Solenoids A and B are on.

Use the 2 inputs for the Eboost 2 for Solenoid A and B. Trigger 1 will be 1st gear, no trigger will be 2nd, Trigger 2 will be 3rd.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 10:27 AM
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Hi Doug, good report.

MEASURE the resistance between "E" AND "A", the coil resistance.

This report (post here) will state the current draw of the Solenoid.

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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
lol, you're going to force me into this aren't you.

The solenoids pass 12v through them to the PCM when their off, the PCM uses the 12v signal to verify they are working. It grounds them to turn them on. The ground is continuous when that solenoid is on.

4L80e solenoids work like this:
Solenoid A/B.

1st Gear, Solenoid A is on.
2nd Gear, no solenoids (this is why limp mode defaults to 2nd gear)
3rd Gear, Solenoid B is on.
4th Gear, Solenoids A and B are on.

Use the 2 inputs for the Eboost 2 for Solenoid A and B. Trigger 1 will be 1st gear, no trigger will be 2nd, Trigger 2 will be 3rd.
Well they still haven't fixed your PM's !

But yeah I was hoping you'd pop in.

I'm having a hard time picturing how to wire a relay to be triggered by 2nd gear ...
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
Well they still haven't fixed your PM's !

But yeah I was hoping you'd pop in.

I'm having a hard time picturing how to wire a relay to be triggered by 2nd gear ...
And they probably never will. I posted in the User Support section about finding someone for me to earn my privs back since its going on 18 months now and I was completely ignored.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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yeah if it's not about ad revenue, IBB dont give a ****
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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ever get this to work?
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 06:37 PM
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nope. sold the eboost 2 and bought some stiffwall slicks.
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