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Old Mar 2, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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I have a 2006 P59 from an L33 truck that will need a 2 BAR OS with a 4l80e. My existing tune OS has but one option: 2 bar only (w/o real time) and I can't find a 4l80e OS to swap, so it's worthless to me, not to mention I'd like the option for 3 BAR at some point too. Stupidly I flashed an 04 Tahoe flex tune from the repository, swapped in the 4l80e and had the perfect tune. I went to flash it to my ECM and learned of my mistake as HP Tuners asked me to license the ECM tune which I don't plan to use in order to write to the ECM.

I wrote to HP Tuners and they advised the system might let me flash the repository tune to my ECM after I license my ECM's tune, but it also might ask me fore 2 more credits to re-license the repository tune.

Does anyone know if I will need to license just my ECM tune to flash the repository tune I already licensed, or will I be hit to re-license that tune as well? 6 credits seems a bit much for what I'm trying to do. Does anyone have a better path forward? Should I just buy an earlier ECM? I'm told the later ones had less room for the custom OS's so most have few options. If I license my ECM I'm essentially spending $100 for the metal box itself, possibly $200 depending on what the software requests I license.

If I use this earlier tune (2004) will it play nice with the 06 harness? I was under the impression all P59's were basically the same, with the exception of some working with DBC but all working with DBW which I have. This is a swap so it doesn't need to be compatible with a BCM or anything like that.

Thanks in advance for any guidance on this.
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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Ok, so I got frustrated and purchased an ECM on eBay in hopes of getting one with a common enough OS that I could segment swap flex fuel and a 4l80e. I ended up with one ending in 6960 which after going through the repository seems to be garbage as well.

I don't mind using a few more credits to unlock an ECM, but I want to use the tune that I already licensed from the repository which had all the goodies I was looking for.

The response from HP Tuners support was that it will charge me 2 to unlock the ECM, but possibly an additional 2 credits for the VIN/OS pairing I would be creating. Does anyone have any insight into this?

This is a swap so I don't need the VIN to agree with the ECM, if that's what their statement about a VIN/OS pairing refers to. I'm in the dark here.
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tiznodd
Ok, so I got frustrated and purchased an ECM on eBay in hopes of getting one with a common enough OS that I could segment swap flex fuel and a 4l80e. I ended up with one ending in 6960 which after going through the repository seems to be garbage as well.

I don't mind using a few more credits to unlock an ECM, but I want to use the tune that I already licensed from the repository which had all the goodies I was looking for.

The response from HP Tuners support was that it will charge me 2 to unlock the ECM, but possibly an additional 2 credits for the VIN/OS pairing I would be creating. Does anyone have any insight into this?

This is a swap so I don't need the VIN to agree with the ECM, if that's what their statement about a VIN/OS pairing refers to. I'm in the dark here.
Inbox me. I can segment swap your OS with 2 and 3 bar OS options with a 4L80 segment. That way, you wont have to use/spend anymore credits...
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Hi jaydubb, I appreciate the offer but I ended up resolving it. I had to license the ECM regardless, I just wasn't sure what the hell HP Tuners was talking about when they suggested I would need another 2 credits to resolve the VIN/OS pairing.

I had already licensed a tune from the repository, then today just licensed the ECM. Once that was done I was able to write entire over the unused OS on the ECM. Just posting the resolution for future searches. I suspect if I needed the VIN to match my vehicle it might have cost more credits.
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digging up some info.

so do we still have to buy credits if we swap a pcm to a newer one?

I did the 98 to 99-02 411 pcm repin, so I can run 3bar and a 4l80e. I have the HPtuner MVPI2 that i bought in 2020.
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshuaGrooms83
digging up some info.

so do we still have to buy credits if we swap a pcm to a newer one?

I did the 98 to 99-02 411 pcm repin, so I can run 3bar and a 4l80e. I have the HPtuner MVPI2 that i bought in 2020.
I believe so as they use the PCM serial number and VIN to license, so even if you keep the same VIN the serial number will be different.
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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so I gotta shell out another $100 in credits again... yay lol
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Old Aug 3, 2022 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshuaGrooms83
digging up some info.

so do we still have to buy credits if we swap a pcm to a newer one?

I did the 98 to 99-02 411 pcm repin, so I can run 3bar and a 4l80e. I have the HPtuner MVPI2 that i bought in 2020.
Yes...
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Originally Posted by JoshuaGrooms83
so I gotta shell out another $100 in credits again... yay lol
It could be worse... LOL
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true. if anything it's the cheapest of the process lol
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