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Old Mar 1, 2023 | 10:13 PM
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I'm new to tuning and even newer to segment swaps.
I am LS swapping a 2000 S10 2.2L Flex fuel truck to a 2004 Trailblazer 5.3L I bought a complete swap harness, P59 PCM & was sold a 2005 Silverado L33 tune from CPW (Current Performance Wiring). I have a battery light that is on constantly.. It charges OK, 14.5V 100A output when loaded.
I have been told that I need a S10 compatible Tune. They used an example of a tune that was used in friend of mine from Phoenix 94 S10 4.3L to a L33 swap. In this tune, they started with a 2003 S10 tune and segment swapped a L33 engine/transmission in. I am assuming that they mean the OS #.
HPtuners requires a similar OS to complete a segment swap.
In my search for a compatible tune/OS. I found similar OS #'s, but I ran across 1 that looks odd. It had a listing "12579405 -> 1283050" under the OS. All the other tune files OS's have a single set of digits listed under the hardware, VIN & ETC column. Then will have a separate listing/column for all the different "Operating system" "engine", "engine diagnostic", "transmission", transmission diagnostic", "fuel system", "system" & "speedometer".
Sorry I cannot just screen shot anything in HPtuners. I was hoping a senior tuner could look at this and tell if this has been segment swapped? Just trying to learn and any information is greatly appreciated.
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:36 PM
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As far as the battery light goes, it has nothing to do with the tune, it's strictly wiring. Give Current a call, they will happily walk you through it. I had that issue like 12 years ago. They ended up sending me a section I tied into my harness.
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As far as the battery light goes, it has nothing to do with the tune, it's strictly wiring. Give Current a call, they will happily walk you through it. I had that issue like 12 years ago. They ended up sending me a section I tied into my harness.
I have contacted CPW about this issue. Since Jared left a few years back, some people believe their product support has dwindled. I think they make a fantastic product. Without posting the entire back and forth e-mail you wouldn't understand the length that both CPW & myself went to help resolve that issue, but could not. They would not even answer specific questions. They did however supply wiring diagrams to help.
The bottom line to their final reply was...
"All of this is still just for the battery light, correct?" and in a phone conversation. 'Some batt lights cannot be turned off and you just have to remove the bulb"

I believe I have the battery light taken care of with a different tune. What I have come to believe is that. The tune uses an OS (Operating System) that must have compatible class II serial data for the Body computer and things that it controls like the battery light. The S10 instrument cluster uses a solid state chip for the light that is supplied serial data to turn it on/off.
So here is the fix that was recommended from 2 separate people. Start with a S10 Compatible tune, segment swap the L33 engine into that. That is when I started my search for a S10 OS that was shared with a V8. They however couldn't answer my ? about the multiple OS #'s on the tune file I uploaded.
Were you able to look at the uploaded tune file?
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Jared is no longer at CPW? WOW! I thought he owned it, I'm guessing he sold it and moved on. I'll do some looking, and see if I can figure out what they did to correct mine.
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Originally Posted by rpturbo
As far as the battery light goes, it has nothing to do with the tune, it's strictly wiring. Give Current a call, they will happily walk you through it. I had that issue like 12 years ago. They ended up sending me a section I tied into my harness.
Depends on the year, TUNE will cause a battery light in some applications as well as non functional gauges. Any P59 tune can be altered for Discrete (hard wired) or Serial Data cluster setups just not with HP Tuners.

OEM diagram on a P59 GMT800. Cluster is Serial data controlled.

https:/www.lt1swap.com/pictures/03to07schematics/2004/2004%20Vortec%205.3%20Charging%20Schematics.gif

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had same problem, with cpw harness, couldn't get no help ,Under battery tray is a junction box .I replaced that light went out.i didnt no owner left either.i have switched new project to BP AUTOMTIVE HARNESS
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Originally Posted by Tranzman
I'm new to tuning and even newer to segment swaps.
I am LS swapping a 2000 S10 2.2L Flex fuel truck to a 2004 Trailblazer 5.3L I bought a complete swap harness, P59 PCM & was sold a 2005 Silverado L33 tune from CPW (Current Performance Wiring). I have a battery light that is on constantly.. It charges OK, 14.5V 100A output when loaded.
I have been told that I need a S10 compatible Tune. They used an example of a tune that was used in friend of mine from Phoenix 94 S10 4.3L to a L33 swap. In this tune, they started with a 2003 S10 tune and segment swapped a L33 engine/transmission in. I am assuming that they mean the OS #.
HPtuners requires a similar OS to complete a segment swap.
In my search for a compatible tune/OS. I found similar OS #'s, but I ran across 1 that looks odd. It had a listing "12579405 -> 1283050" under the OS. All the other tune files OS's have a single set of digits listed under the hardware, VIN & ETC column. Then will have a separate listing/column for all the different "Operating system" "engine", "engine diagnostic", "transmission", transmission diagnostic", "fuel system", "system" & "speedometer".
Sorry I cannot just screen shot anything in HPtuners. I was hoping a senior tuner could look at this and tell if this has been segment swapped? Just trying to learn and any information is greatly appreciated.
The tune you posted has been upgraded to 1 BARMAF Enhanced RTT OS is why its still not the 12579405. The battery light can be tuned out most of the time. I have never done a segment swap to kill a battery light.
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Originally Posted by rpturbo
Jared is no longer at CPW? WOW! I thought he owned it, I'm guessing he sold it and moved on. I'll do some looking, and see if I can figure out what they did to correct mine.
Jared is still there and is still the owner of current performance as of 3/8/23.
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