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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Default Running out of ideas on this cold surging. Please help.

So far:
I've dialed in my VE tables and MAF table with a wideband.
I've leaned out my Open Loop F/A tables so I'm only running 13-13.5:1 durring cold starts.
I've dialed in my RAF tables and Park Position Airflow tables so that my LTIT's are zero and STIT's are always less than +/- 0.5.
I've dialed in my IAC Effective Area table so Desired Idle Airflow and Dynamic Airflow overlap near perfectly.
I've tried a million different timing advance combinations.

I'm not sure what to try next. I just wish I could slow down the rate at which the IAC moves...seems like it keeps overshooting its target. I dunno
And it only seems to do it for the first minute or so.

If someone's figured this out, or has some more ideas, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by V-10 Killer
So far:
I've dialed in my VE tables and MAF table with a wideband.
I've leaned out my Open Loop F/A tables so I'm only running 13-13.5:1 durring cold starts.
I've dialed in my RAF tables and Park Position Airflow tables so that my LTIT's are zero and STIT's are always less than +/- 0.5.
I've dialed in my IAC Effective Area table so Desired Idle Airflow and Dynamic Airflow overlap near perfectly.
I've tried a million different timing advance combinations.

I'm not sure what to try next. I just wish I could slow down the rate at which the IAC moves...seems like it keeps overshooting its target. I dunno
And it only seems to do it for the first minute or so.

If someone's figured this out, or has some more ideas, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks.
It sounds like your 13 A/F at start up, That is too lean. At start up it needs to be richer and as the temp rises the the A/F starts to lean out and eventually to the ideal 14.7.1, Try adding some fuel at start up...
Moehorsepower.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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To slow down the the IAC, you need to reduce the Throttle Follower decay table by 50%. Makes a good bit of difference...
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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my car did this when it was running 10:1 a/f on start up. thats not the problem. its most likely the amount of timing that is being pulled out of the car. try to take the multiplier for the start up spark correction down in the cells that its at 1.0 down to 0.75 or 0.50, thats where i have mine and it fixed it on cold 40* start, at 30* its messed up still but its only 0.75 so i have to go lower. 0.45 worked for me, do this now becuase it will work lol (at least i hope it will like it did mine and checkmate's, he told me about this)
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Thanks, I'll give these a shot tomorrow and see how they work
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
my car did this when it was running 10:1 a/f on start up. thats not the problem. its most likely the amount of timing that is being pulled out of the car. try to take the multiplier for the start up spark correction down in the cells that its at 1.0 down to 0.75 or 0.50, thats where i have mine and it fixed it on cold 40* start, at 30* its messed up still but its only 0.75 so i have to go lower. 0.45 worked for me, do this now becuase it will work lol (at least i hope it will like it did mine and checkmate's, he told me about this)
My start up correction multiplier isn't highlighted. How would I make this correction?
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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larry you dont have this? its in the timing section? you can always go through the start up correction table and reduct it yourself by that amount
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Hi to all just i have question if any one can help me , i have camaro Z28 2002 model and it A4 transmission ,I chang the cam to :

Advertised Duration: 269 int./273 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.525
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.532
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.525 int./0.532 exh. lift
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so can any one till me what i have to chang from the ls1 edit because i don't now what to do,,

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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
larry you dont have this? its in the timing section? you can always go through the start up correction table and reduct it yourself by that amount
I have it but cant' use it.
Here's a pic: http://www.mustangmods.com/data/440/...1image0001.jpg
Excuse my photography but you can see it is not highlighted.
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do you have any start up spark correction tables? i have never seen edit so i cant help
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
do you have any start up spark correction tables? i have never seen edit so i cant help
Where would they be? I have HP Tuner.
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