Stock Tuning, &Torque Management
07-22-2002, 03:49 PM
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Stock Tuning, &Torque Management How come with my Stock Tuning I can't feel tha TM at WOT? Am I just missing something here? I know that TM, from a racing perspective is not a good thing, but I dont feel it at all.
I remember people having the words "torque management" and "car falling on its face" in the same post, but i just can't feel it, am i missing something or does my pcm not have TM? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I remember people having the words "torque management" and "car falling on its face" in the same post, but i just can't feel it, am i missing something or does my pcm not have TM? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
07-22-2002, 08:46 PM
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Re: Stock Tuning, &Torque Management Auto tap your car and watch the timing on shifts. Thats really the only way to know for sure. If you see the timing being pulled, you still have TM...
07-22-2002, 11:33 PM
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Re: Stock Tuning, &Torque Management Mildot,
So basically if my car has 28 degrees of timing, and every time it shifts it knocks out 5 degrees of timing, this is a good example of TM?
Thats a good idea, i didnt think of that, thanks!
<small>[ July 22, 2002, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: SSBoy ]</small>
So basically if my car has 28 degrees of timing, and every time it shifts it knocks out 5 degrees of timing, this is a good example of TM?
Thats a good idea, i didnt think of that, thanks!
<small>[ July 22, 2002, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: SSBoy ]</small>
07-23-2002, 02:18 PM
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Re: Stock Tuning, &Torque Management </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SSBoy:
<strong>How come with my Stock Tuning I can't feel tha TM at WOT? Am I just missing something here? I know that TM, from a racing perspective is not a good thing, but I dont feel it at all.
I remember people having the words "torque management" and "car falling on its face" in the same post, but i just can't feel it, am i missing something or does my pcm not have TM? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why don't you just record delivered torque and TM via your scanner and know exactly when you have exceeded the max torque value that is set in the PCM calibration ?
Both are GM enhanced OBD-II PIDs and your scanner should allow them to be scanned and give valid values.
TM should not kick in during WOT condition alone, it should only trip when you are launching or shifting hard enough to spike over the max tq value.
If you added mods that increased tq then TM could be tripped more often since the engine would produce more tq and be over the max tq value set in the PCM.
<small>[ July 23, 2002, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Team ZR-1 ]</small>
<strong>How come with my Stock Tuning I can't feel tha TM at WOT? Am I just missing something here? I know that TM, from a racing perspective is not a good thing, but I dont feel it at all.
I remember people having the words "torque management" and "car falling on its face" in the same post, but i just can't feel it, am i missing something or does my pcm not have TM? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why don't you just record delivered torque and TM via your scanner and know exactly when you have exceeded the max torque value that is set in the PCM calibration ?
Both are GM enhanced OBD-II PIDs and your scanner should allow them to be scanned and give valid values.
TM should not kick in during WOT condition alone, it should only trip when you are launching or shifting hard enough to spike over the max tq value.
If you added mods that increased tq then TM could be tripped more often since the engine would produce more tq and be over the max tq value set in the PCM.
<small>[ July 23, 2002, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Team ZR-1 ]</small>
07-23-2002, 03:19 PM
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Re: Stock Tuning, &Torque Management I have had tm deleted <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> It seems to be ok at wot, but still pulls lots at pt.Would raising the pt. tq value help?