Now that I've gotten LSILiveV5 to monitor & Log my 2002 C5 I'd like to know why there aren't any units associated with the PID's??

When I select "change all PID's to Imperial" the gauge readings that I can recognize are OK (RPM, MPH, and Temperatures) but there are no units shown for the PID's. So to try to figure out the MAF units for instance it's a real challenge. Am I not doing something right??? I thought that when you selected "Imperial" or "Metric" it should also list the units for the PID, but that area stays blank in the selection sheet.

Am I supposed to manually type those in? If so then I need to get a list of what they are supposed to be.

Also, there was no explanation in the help menu concerning the PID set up window (where it shows offsets and scaling factors and alarms, etc. Am I supposed to leave those alone?? -- I noticed that the "units" area is blank and I can type something in, but how do I know what unit? Also, how do I know if the "scaling factor" is right, and finally, what is the "calculkate" box for?? -- if I click that I get an error message.

Dennis

Dennis

 

Some of the PIDs don't have unit associated, but the common ones do. You can access the PID range and and alarms by right-clicking on the pid and selecting 'properties...'.
Where in Cincy are you? If you continue to have trouble, drop me anote or give me a call.

 

Hi hdrider,

As Chris said, some PIDs do not have any units, but it sounds like you are not seeing any units on the gauges and charts.

If the "units" field is NOT blank then you can use the following procedure to hide/show the units on the gauges and charts:

1. You can right click anywhere on a gauge and select "Gauge settings", then "Show units".
2. For the charts you can right click on the PID name and select "Show units".

Whatever is entered in the "Units" field in the PID property editor will be displayed here. Obviously if the "units" field is blank then no units will be displayed.

To restore the installation default scaling settings for a single PID, right click on the PID and select "Revert to default properties".

** For experienced windows users only **
If you want to restore ALL the PIDs to default properties then you need to exit from EFILiveV5, start the registry editor. (regedit)
Open the key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Starr Performance\EFILive V5
Delete the key called "PIDS".
Then restart EFILiveV5, because no PID data exists in the registry, EFILiveV5 will re-create ALL the PID scaling properties from the installation defaults.

Warning - if you have set up any custom scaling PIDs those custom scales will be overwritten.

Lastly - the documentation for the PID editor is in there - unfortunately the link to it is missing form the table of contents.
You can get to it on-line here:
http://www.starrperformance.com.au/e...m#Scaledvalues

or by following the link in this section:
http://www.starrperformance.com.au/e...hartparameters

Unfortunately because there was no link in the table of contents to this page it was never proof-read properly. It contains a number of errors: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

The Limits section should say:
Display min - determines the minimum values for dash gauges and chart axis on which this PID is displayed.
Display max - determines the maximum values for dash gauges and chart axis on which this PID is displayed.
Alarm min - values less than or equal to this value are considered too low.
Alarm max - values greater than or equal to this value are considered too high

Isn't cut and paste editing is a wonderful thing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" />

Regards
Paul

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by hdrider:
<strong>and finally, what is the "calculkate" box for?? -- if I click that I get an error message.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's a bug - plain and simple <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" />
Bug report here: http://www.starrperformance.com.au/e...sues_index.htm
Version 5.16 should be available this weekend - check the web site for a new download.

The calculate button (when it's working) should calculate the maximum and minimum values based on the factor, offset and raw values of the PID.

For example the raw value for a PID that uses 1 channel is in the range 0..255.

The min display value would be set to (0*factor)+offset.
The max display value would be set to (255*factor)+offset.

The raw value for a PID that uses 2 channels is in the range 0..65535.

The min display value would be set to (0*factor)+offset
The max display value would be set to (65535*factor)+offset

The alarm min/max values would be calculated so that they fall outside the display range - That means there will be no alarms for the PID.
If you want alarms you'll need to set the alarm min/max accordingly.

The actual calculations are as follows:
min display: (0*factor)+offset
max display: (((2^(channels*8))-1)*factor)+offset
min alarm: ((0*factor)+offset)-1
max alarm: ((((2^(channels*8))-1)*factor)+offset)+1

Regards
Paul

<small>[ July 31, 2002, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: EFIliveV5 ]</small>