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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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I've heard a lot of people talk about getting ride of the maf( and just tuning using speed density) i was just wondering what the down side of this is
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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cant do FI without 2 bar setup

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OK, so I would need to buy the HPTuner with 2 bar in order to do a SD tune? What is FI? Sorry I am new to the tuning side and am getting ready to place my order today for the HPtuners software.
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FI = Forced Induction (turbo or supercharger).

To do SD tune with FI, you need a MAP sensor that reads boost. The stock one will not.

If you're not running a blower, then SD Tuning can be done with the standard HP Tuners or EFI Live.
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Nice! Thanks!
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I've also heard that you run into problems with a SD tune if you live in a climate that is always changing temps. I for instance live in Michigan, and I just did a whole nine yards to my car with a decent cam (228/236 .612/.580 114+2) and got it dyno tuned and all, but my tuners couldn't fix the bogging/ warm start idle issues. So, i'm considering going SD and believe that will fix my problems...
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Flashscan EFILive has a new custom operating system that includes some extra tables that impact on the VE table to maintain an accurate SD tune. One adjusts based on IAT the other from ECT.
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So basically, with this new custom OS, there is now absolutely no downside to a SD tune? What are some other factors that could throw off the SD tune? I was also told that you can't do a speed density tune with the stock gm PCM....and I have a 2001 WS6, when I went into a performance shop and asked to have my car SD tuned. So then I ended up paying for a dyno tune/driveability tune where they couldn't tune my car for driveability and then told me it was the cam that I put in and they sent me out the door...did I get ripped?
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Originally Posted by Haans249
So basically, with this new custom OS, there is now absolutely no downside to a SD tune? What are some other factors that could throw off the SD tune? I was also told that you can't do a speed density tune with the stock gm PCM....and I have a 2001 WS6, when I went into a performance shop and asked to have my car SD tuned. So then I ended up paying for a dyno tune/driveability tune where they couldn't tune my car for driveability and then told me it was the cam that I put in and they sent me out the door...did I get ripped?
I'd say so ... any decent tuner should be able to make a cammed car driveable. People run the MS3 and Trex in their daily drivers ... and those are big mothers.
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Originally Posted by Haans249
So basically, with this new custom OS, there is now absolutely no downside to a SD tune? What are some other factors that could throw off the SD tune? I was also told that you can't do a speed density tune with the stock gm PCM....and I have a 2001 WS6, when I went into a performance shop and asked to have my car SD tuned. So then I ended up paying for a dyno tune/driveability tune where they couldn't tune my car for driveability and then told me it was the cam that I put in and they sent me out the door...did I get ripped?
Yes. What the shop meant to say is, we don't know what we're doing, please give us your money.


I run a 23x/24x in my bird, SD tuned. I don't drive it everyday, but I could. Pick up EFILive or HPT and tune it yourself.
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you sold me, i'm getting the new EFILive software right now....I hate Livernois...
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Forgot to ask, what exactly do I need to purchase? Can I just get a replacement flashscan/obdII cable and download the software off their website?

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send a PM to wait4me and he will get you what you need.
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Thanks for the lead TAQuickness, pm was sent.

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