Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit?
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Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? For the price of this thing, (and $100 for a year of updates, that's crazy) they need to offer a USB cable so we don't have to pay $50 for an adapter; especially since in a few year, there won't even be serial ports.
<small>[ December 03, 2002, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: Beeler311 ]</small>
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? Give me time. Yes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I've started on the OBDI version of the USB to ALDL, and after I get it running, I'll start on the Carputing cable. It's a few months off I think, but it will come.
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? Don't buy a usb to serial adapter. I had three different brands, they don't work with tuner cat or AKM cables. I used a PCM CIA serial adapter I got off e-bay, its works well.
Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? If you're trying to use USB with Tunercat for DOS (OBDI software), well, it just flat out won't work. There is NO USB support under DOS. Heck, even NT4.0 doesn't support USB. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
I have used the Belkin F5U103 adapter successfully with TTS Datamaster and LT1Edit, but haven't tried it with LS1Edit.
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I have used the Belkin F5U103 adapter successfully with TTS Datamaster and LT1Edit, but haven't tried it with LS1Edit.
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? The problem with USB->Serial adaptors are 1) the drivers, or 2) the performance when receiving from the peripheral.
Keyspan appears to be the only company with fully MS qualified drivers. They also allow optimizations to keep the throughput as high as possible (with reduced compatibility ofcourse - but it is your choice). The problem with performance is the way USB operates. It is packet based and time sliced at 1ms intervals. Serial ports are interrupt based which means the data is read relatively soon after an interrupt occurs. Serial port applications also tend to send a character at a time which does not fit well at all with the USB packet/timing model.
The Belkin 103 will work with LS1 Edit without any issues but A-tap will not recognize the com port. I've also tried the 409 but it transfers at about 1/4 the rate of the Keyspan with LS1 Edit. My HP adaptor is 1/8 the rate.
Tim
<small>[ December 05, 2002, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: TimZ28 ]</small>
Keyspan appears to be the only company with fully MS qualified drivers. They also allow optimizations to keep the throughput as high as possible (with reduced compatibility ofcourse - but it is your choice). The problem with performance is the way USB operates. It is packet based and time sliced at 1ms intervals. Serial ports are interrupt based which means the data is read relatively soon after an interrupt occurs. Serial port applications also tend to send a character at a time which does not fit well at all with the USB packet/timing model.
The Belkin 103 will work with LS1 Edit without any issues but A-tap will not recognize the com port. I've also tried the 409 but it transfers at about 1/4 the rate of the Keyspan with LS1 Edit. My HP adaptor is 1/8 the rate.
Tim
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? My tuner cat version is windows, the belkin would not work. I wasted a month e-mailing AKM and T.C. looking for a solution. I found the answer(PCM CIA card) by posting my problem on a tech site where the usb/serial converters were characterized as a joke. I agree.
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? The keyspan works well I am using a four port version logging various things on the car at the same time. No problems and they are cheaper than most other compaines.
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TimZ28:
<strong>The Belkin 103 will work with LS1 Edit without any issues but A-tap will not recognize the com port. I've also tried the 409 but it transfers at about 1/4 the rate of the Keyspan with LS1 Edit. My HP adaptor is 1/8 the rate.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I talked w/ the folx at ATap, and they said there's a bug in the software that won't recognize a USB->serial adapter if there are other communication devices installed on the laptop (ie, modem). I went to hardware profiles and disabled the modem, rebooted, and ATap has recognized my Belkin adapter ever since.
Hope this helps,
Jonny
<strong>The Belkin 103 will work with LS1 Edit without any issues but A-tap will not recognize the com port. I've also tried the 409 but it transfers at about 1/4 the rate of the Keyspan with LS1 Edit. My HP adaptor is 1/8 the rate.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I talked w/ the folx at ATap, and they said there's a bug in the software that won't recognize a USB->serial adapter if there are other communication devices installed on the laptop (ie, modem). I went to hardware profiles and disabled the modem, rebooted, and ATap has recognized my Belkin adapter ever since.
Hope this helps,
Jonny
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Re: Is there ever going to be a USB connection for LS1 edit? AustinTAtious, that funny I have two modems, a network card, a four port usb to serial converter and autotap running and it works fine. Sounds like the usual B&B electronics garbage when they dont feel like or dont know how to fix there code.
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