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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 04:17 AM
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just got done putting a new cam in my car and i keep throwing a p0121 tps trouble code changed the sensor and still it throws it + my idle is surging any help please
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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check your connections at the sensor and at the computer.I had a problem like that once and it was just dirt and grime built up at the computer connection.If that doesnt work then check the wires to make sure something didnt get pinched or frayed.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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some larger cams throw the 121 code...just needs tuning.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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mine throws 121 and 122, what areas need to be tuned. have hptuners just not sure what to adjust and how far. mine also started after cam install, could that affect the tcs also, because ever since this started my tcs has been inop.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Engine diagnostics ---> General and change the P0121 min and max map
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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That will solve the SES code but not solve the root cause of the problem.

The problem lies in more air coming in than the PCM thinks there should be (and hence it thinks you're at a higher throttle position than the TPS is reporting).

It's also common for these symptoms to whack your TCS where the button won't turn it on/off.

RAF, VE and MAF tuning are the key.

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Im also having a similar problem with my car and its tuned. It throws the tps code at a light when im sitting there. It also throws a map code. When the tcs shuts off it goes into some kind of limp mode and wont downshift and will only rev to 3500 rpm and shift but once you start driving about 5 seconds later it resets and the tcs will come back on and its out of limp mode. Im going to try and get my tune checked in alittle bit because from what I have heard its a tuning issue.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad30th
That will solve the SES code but not solve the root cause of the problem.

The problem lies in more air coming in than the PCM thinks there should be (and hence it thinks you're at a higher throttle position than the TPS is reporting).

It's also common for these symptoms to whack your TCS where the button won't turn it on/off.

RAF, VE and MAF tuning are the key.

Rob (Bad30th)
had same thing happen to me when i was going down the highway all of a sudden it said tcs off and the button didnt work anymore.,.. had a friend just scan it and it went back to normal....
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
Engine diagnostics ---> General and change the P0121 min and max map
I am also getting a code P0121 after a cam install.

I did find the P0121 Min and Max
Mine are set to
Min 65
Max 55

What should I adjust them to?

Thanks for your help,
Bob
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickVert
I am also getting a code P0121 after a cam install.

I did find the P0121 Min and Max
Mine are set to
Min 65
Max 55

What should I adjust them to?

Thanks for your help,
Bob

Just widen the range until the code stops being thrown. I'd start with min 50 max 70. Again, this is just a bandaid fix to keep the code from being thrown, not an actual fix for the root cause of the problem.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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The root cause of the problem cant be fixed with the ve table or the likes. The PCM expects to see a certain rpm for a certain throttle position if it doesnt P0121 is thrown esp when a cam is put into the engine. In EFILive we can actually modify the tables parameters and remapp what tps% is related to that rpm in HPT all you can do is widen the test boundaries. It has nothing to do with air....





Check the description also

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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WOW, thanks for the explanation, I've been wondering WTF is up with that for a loooooong time. Nobody has ever posted the real fix.

Thanks !
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Got it fixed!

Go to General and change the P0121 min and max, set them to;
Min to 105
Max to 05

Big thanks to HumpinSS and Geoff at Thunder Racing
Bob
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Okay I'm having this same problem. The tcs will not allow my car to go to WOT I've tried adjusting it over and over and nothing will work. I have ls1edit does anyone know a fix with it? Or can I just turn off the 121 code?

My tuners being a dick and saying to start with replacing the tps. He's never heard of this problem he says.

Okay I found it in edit but still throwing the code after putting it to 05 105. just installed new tps hopefully this will help

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