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Old 04-18-2006, 11:01 AM
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Any chance of a 1bar showing up???

Old 04-18-2006, 11:27 AM
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ESR, Please send our sales address an e-mail early next week for the software upgrade. If you already have the full tuning suite (which would include unlimited 2bar for gen3 vehicles), you will receive the 98 2bar at no additional cost.

Family sedan, please e-mail us at sales as well. I have all the information you need.

It doesn't matter how many licenses you have on your serial interface, the upgrade cost is a straight $149 or $199 depending on what interface you go with. We can also combine your interfaces onto one MPVI at the time of upgrade if you are interested as well. Once you have the MPVI interface, the cost to add the 2bar 98 license will be $99 (2 credits).

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Old 04-18-2006, 12:25 PM
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Wow glad to see this happen i have been wating to get a 1 bar but hey i guess a 2 bar works too.
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:10 PM
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does someone not know 1bar is?

1bar =! 14.7psi
Old 04-18-2006, 02:47 PM
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Holy She-it! Thought there was something different about today...looks like this is it. HPT finally went through the trouble to keep us 98 guys happy....just when MAFT pro 2-3 bar SD was being finalized and a few of us 98 guys were trudging away on our own doing a 98 custom jobby/hack. I wouldn't call it innovation, I'd call it a nice step to keeping market share.

THIS WAS THE REASON I WENT AND BOUGHT HPT IN THE FIRST PLACE That you guys were going to support 98s and 2bar SD..but then decided against it much to my dismay....but then...BAM here it is.



So, I can send in my EIO Serial cable, along with $149+99 for the 2 bar and it'll come all packaged up in the MPVI unit??

Great time to do this since the car is down waiting on parts.

Thanks HPT,
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:48 PM
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i just wanted to use primary ve so i dont have 10 kpa increments in SD and use high octane spark. I know what one bar is 100kpa and 14.7 psi i did go to school and they did cover that. Also 14.7 psi is 0 psig.
Old 04-18-2006, 05:57 PM
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Sounds Great...

Mecham.. This would be great for you.. Gets you that much closer..

You and I being up here in Denver, our 1bar MAP sensors can pretty much read only 2psi of boost as the DA pressue up here is abour 12psi VS 14.7psi Sealevel. With a 2 Bar we can read about 17psi of boost up here..

This shall be fun!!

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Too late. I took the dive and went all out for the BS3. 15lbs of boost won't be enough to keep me satisfied very long. I will live with under 15lbs with the T70, But when the 82mm goes on I will see alot more than 20lbs. Oh well.
Old 04-18-2006, 06:29 PM
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The whole 2bar is not enough argument is only valid from a fueling point if you will ever see boost between your maximum and 15 psi. Even then if you can live with it being slightly rich there is no issue. And even then, there is no reason you can't have a few different max boost tunes ready to flash in if you decide to get happy with the boost controller. It only takes 30secs.

eg. your car makes 18psi but your car never see's anything between 15 and 18 psi anyway. Just tune the 15psi (210kpa) line in the VE table for 18psi.

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Originally Posted by kp
Calling a BS3 'ghetto' is like calling a Lenco 'ghetto' compared to a 4L60 there sparky, each have their purpose.

3bar and an IAT fueling table and I may change my BS3 plans though
youre right, theres nothing 'ghetto' about it, however ive heard its a pita and then some to get all your stock gauges working and the fuel level etc amongst other things, and then having the stock pcm work as well hand in hand with the bs3, HENCE i said a ghetto setup on my "street car" with rigging a bs3 into the mix. if it were a race car, and all i ran was the bs3, hell yeah, but this is a street car... hahah yes a twin turbo 15+ psi street car hahahaha (correct me if im wrong about the above, because thats what ive been told by many people)
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Holy ****!!!

I need it now, I have to tune a 98 running about 12-14lbs of boost this week, any chance I could "Beta Test" it for ya.

You guys f'ing rock!!!

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Old 04-18-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro_Zach
youre right, theres nothing 'ghetto' about it, however ive heard its a pita and then some to get all your stock gauges working and the fuel level etc amongst other things, and then having the stock pcm work as well hand in hand with the bs3, HENCE i said a ghetto setup on my "street car" with rigging a bs3 into the mix. if it were a race car, and all i ran was the bs3, hell yeah, but this is a street car... hahah yes a twin turbo 15+ psi street car hahahaha (correct me if im wrong about the above, because thats what ive been told by many people)
BS3 can work with all the stock stuff, stock tach is the tricky thing, but its no easy job for most. I'm pretty sure MM has all working stock gauges and I will too

Apples to oranges though, BS3 has a 2 step, WOT wideband correction, staged injectors/fuel pumps, internal logger, on the fly tuning etc. Its a race setup and thats its primary purpose. Just not a fair comparison to put the that and a custom stock PCM even in the same sentence IMO.

It would be more fair to comapare it to other stock PCM tuning solutions since none have 2bar 98 support..
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Originally Posted by kp
Calling a BS3 'ghetto' is like calling a Lenco 'ghetto' compared to a 4L60 there sparky, each have their purpose.

3bar and an IAT fueling table and I may change my BS3 plans though

Yes ....... right there Kevin........ 3 bar......
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Bill, e-mail me over the weekend.
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aw...anyway i can get in on the beta testing?

i got a great tuner (Hugger) and am running 12psi on my TTi kit. Clint got the car running solid...but this HP 2Bar setup is the "RIGHT" way to do it. I want in..I want in...plz...plz!!!

I traded my ls1edit for HP Tuner a long time ago in hopes of what is now a reality...
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It will be open to everyone..
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Originally Posted by Magnus
It will be open to everyone..
oh...so i can send my cable back now and add a 98 SD tune for my car. and any software updates will done via application upgrades?
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I a going to use the BS3 alone. No factory PCM or engine harness. Like KP said the BS3 will inteface with all (or most) of the factory gauges. I plan to add an aftermarket Tach anyway so that aspect should be easy. All in all mine will be a street car too. Its gonna have OD and Dot tires. Its just gonna have a turbo under the hood to make things interesting.
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Originally Posted by MECHAM
oh...so i can send my cable back now and add a 98 SD tune for my car. and any software updates will done via application upgrades?
You can upgrade to MPVI at any time.

98 2bar will be deployed through a software update.

Please e-mail us at sales at hptuners.com for upgrade instructions.

Thanks!

- Keith, HP Tuners


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