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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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I'm tunning a '04 GTO with a 4L60E auto. If I'm driving in the mph range of 35-60 and go to WOT, the tranny will only shift to 3rd gear. It will not go to 2nd gear! I'm tunning with EFILive Commercial and I've changed the downshift table at WOT to 76 mph and it still does the same thing!! Am I over looking a table or something I need to change?

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maybe post up the values in the 2nd gear table.
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Are you talking about the partial throttle tables?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Anidote00
Are you talking about the partial throttle tables?
The kickdown table for 2nd gear.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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I'm sorry but I'm stupid and can't figure out how to do that.
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EFI-live

>Transmission Calibration
----------------------> Throttle Kickdown

is where you'll find the kickdown tables.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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I've changed them already to 80%. That table is for the TPS position only, so it should kick down when the TPS goes above 80%.

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Originally Posted by Anidote00
I've changed them already to 80%. That table is for the TPS position only, so it should kick down when the TPS goes above 80%.
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There are three of these kickdown tables and they contain TPS vs MPH.

edited to fix errors...

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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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You must be talking about the D0906, D0907, and D0908 tables. I've changed those tables as well and still no change.
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I'm sorry I told you wrong. The values in the throttle kickdown tables are TPS %.

The tables are D0960, D0961, and D0962.

If you wanted the kickdown-shift from 3rd gear to 2nd gear between 40 and 72 MPH the D0961 table would look like this:

MPH TPS%
0 100
8 100
16 100
24 100
32 100
40 75
48 75
56 75
64 75
72 75
80 100
88 100
96 100
104 100

Is this basically what you have there?
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
I'm sorry I told you wrong. The values in the throttle kickdown tables are TPS %.

The tables are D0960, D0961, and D0962.

If you wanted the kickdown-shift from 3rd gear to 2nd gear between 40 and 72 MPH the D0961 table would look like this:

MPH TPS%
0 100
8 100
16 100
24 100
32 100
40 75
48 75
56 75
64 75
72 75
80 100
88 100
96 100
104 100

Is this basically what you have there?
I have mine at 90% all the way down the table. I'm going to try your table and see if it makes a difference. I will let you know the out come!

Thanks,
Cole
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Old May 12, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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On my '04 GTO, the throttle cable had too much slack in it from the factory, which made it very difficult to get it to kick down to 2nd gear. (Basically as delivered, the car would not downshift to second at any speed over about 50 MPH, because the TPS % reading was too low.) Tightening the cable helped greatly. So if you haven't already, you should take a look to see if you are really getting full throttle when you mash the pedal down.
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Also, check the Part Throttle Downshift tables. They have a spot in them for 100% TPS too.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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I done a scan and it is going to 100% TPS. Thanks for the tip.
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I'm going to change the downshift tables and see what that does.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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white2001s10,
I tryed your table and still no change in the down shift. I also try changing the down shift table at 100% as well and still no change. So I'm going to keep doing research on this and see what else I can come up with. Thanks everyone for all your help!

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Are the WOT tables being enabled? Do you have a value less than 100.00 in the D1206 table?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Yes, I have this table (D1206) at 85% and my lower threshold (D1207) is at 75%. How do I make sure that my WOT Tables are being enabled?
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