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Today I tested the difference between SD and MAF mode both in open loop (Dyno inside)

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
Agree with HumpinSS on this. I think most tuners just half *** tune a car and he say it is close enough and call it a day. Then the owner has driveability issues. Running a SD tune things need to be dialed in much better, so people could think a SD tune is better than running a maf. The maf can take a half done ve table and get things close but when you take a dialed in SD tune and then calibrate the maf I feel things will be right then. I am tired of tuning my car 24/7 running in open loop because of temperature changes so I am putting the maf back on just like HumpinSS.
I agree 120% that most tuners do half *** tunes. We spend an average of 6-8 HOURS tuning the C5s and that includes WOT, Idle, mid range, ect. Once the cars are done they are damn near perfect.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Yeah it makes me when I hear of 45 minute tunes or shops having dyno tune days where they schedule in 8 people in a 10-12 hour day. As another poster said "One tune fits all" although the 45 minute tune might become more of a reality very shortly.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Because of the load dyno you shouldnt need more than an 1 hour to tune both SD and MAF, driving on the street all bets are off
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
Because of the load dyno you shouldnt need more than an 1 hour to tune both SD and MAF, driving on the street all bets are off
couldn't have said it better
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Larry,
I agree, you can tune the VE table and the MAF table in 1-2 hours. Tweaking the idle transition tables is what usually takes me the longest.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Larry,
I agree, you can tune the VE table and the MAF table in 1-2 hours. Tweaking the idle transition tables is what usually takes me the longest.

I understand I was speaking of the load dyno because Ive been there and done the 6-8 hour tuning thing, LORD do I remember LOL. LOOPPY LOOP around Waldorf and 210 until i got it right LOL
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Did you replace the MAF with any sort of tubing?

I honestly wouldn't expect much of a difference with the same induction setup i.e. different types of control but with the same induction configuration.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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yes he had the maf off the car based on what Chad said.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
yes he had the maf off the car based on what Chad said.
Yes that is correct, he had a straight 4 inch diameter piece of hose from the lid to the throttle body.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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k, thanks.

I didn't realize this thread was 4 pages until I posted.

Doh!
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Chad,you got the same result's we did A properly tuned MAF setup will run the same as a properly tuned SD setup.--even with FI
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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hey guys,

why is it then that the boys in Austrailia are having such good results with MAFLESS tunes down there. I mean they all run MAFLESS down there and they've been playing with these engines and computers longer than we have.


On my car I am considering running a 2 bar Map with a Speed Density tune.

The guys down under are not only reporting nice gains but also getting a lot better fuel economy too.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Noone is saying SD is bad here, just proving that MAF doesnt mean loss of power and response.
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