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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Up to 15* knock on startup. Slowly backs back down to 0. (Within 7-8 seconds) This normal? Maybe prob. with cranking VE?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 04:28 AM
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Nope its not normal, looks at a few of my logs, never seen knock on start up.

Wouln't know where to look, if it dosn't knock at any other time its strange to see it on start up. In the stock tune the knock sensors dont read unless above 1.99% throttle
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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http://www.hptuners.com/forum/attach...0&d=1156691364
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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There is a minimum timing table, if you set it too high it may do that also.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wait4me
There is a minimum timing table, if you set it too high it may do that also.
Where's this table located?
How about initial adder vs. ETC or IAT. Even though mine looks in line with other bins I looked at.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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TTT Help wanted. Just noticed startup flare. Could that be causing this?
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I know you've got a forged motor, but do you get any sort of piston-slap or other noise before pump-up or warm-up that might cause it?
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CamTom12
I know you've got a forged motor, but do you get any sort of piston-slap or other noise before pump-up or warm-up that might cause it?
Not noticeable at all. Sounds quiet when its started.. I would never of guessed it had startup KR without a scanner.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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is the header hitting the floorboard??

mine was doing that..

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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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No, I dont think so. As shown in the log, it's only doing it directly after startup. At the same RPM's anytime but startup its not getting that kind of KR. I dont know how to handle this.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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With some year and model GMs, it is normal to hear knock at start up. Wish I knew which years and models did this but I don't. GM does an engine diagnostic proceedure by over-advanceing the timing at start up to cause the knock sensors to activate. If they did not activate, a check engine light and a knock sensor code was set. On some cars it was more audible then others. I've had a few C4/C5 Vettes that have done that and our 02 6L Escalade does it very loudly.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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The odd part is its completely unheard. You'd think at 15* I would hear something before hand?
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have you ever adjusted your idle park postion airflow table, i had the same problem and putting it back to stock fixed it..........
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