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Old 03-04-2007, 11:53 AM
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here is aquick rundown of mods.
383 stroker kit, procharger on 12 lbs, and all of the bolt-ons.
here is my problem, when i load the 3 bar tune to the car it will not crank. i copied the ve table from the previous tune, is there something else i need to change? i also put the previous tune back on the car to make sure it would still crank on the old tune, and it did. any ideas?
Old 03-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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What software are you using? If efilive. just send me the bin with your list of mods, and ill go thru it for you.
Old 03-04-2007, 01:16 PM
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i am using hptunner, can you still look at it for me?
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i forgot to mention that the previous tune was a speed density tune also, but it was manually put into speed density. i am wondering if i need to change something that i had to do to put the car into speed density.
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may seem simple but do you have a 3 bar map sensor installed?

Also what version are you using?

Post the file as well & I'll look it over.
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Yes I Have A 3 Bar Gm Map Sensor, I Believe That I Am Using 2.14. I Will Post My Tune Tonoght So You Can Llok At It. Thanks For The Reply
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Did you set the 3bar scalar?
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Its already preconfigured in HPTuners.
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here is my 3bar file, please look it over and let me know what you think.
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A few things im finding odd
1. your ifr table...what size injectors are you running?
2. your stoich afr is set for 16.583...why?
3. your closed loop enable was set to 480F...how? Was this pcm ever tuned before by some other program?

other then that im not sure why its not cranking.
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1. I Am Running Ford 42lb Injectors
2. The Stoich I Have Never Changed, Dont Know Why.
3. I Noticed The 480 Temp Setting Also The 3 Bar Came Like That And I Was Not Sure What It Was Supposed To Be. And Yes I Used Ls1edit Previously.

Should I Change Any Of These Values? If So What Should They Be? Thanks For Your Time.
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k, those injectors will turn out to be too small in the long run

as for stoich again, I've never seen this changed...personally I would see if I could find a stock file & just put the values back in so you know your starting fresh.

I think LS1edit hadnt set the correct limits on some tables including that ol enable table...it "should" be fine, just found it very odd.
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ok changed the stoich a/f back to stock and car will still not crank! i dont understand because i can load the previous file and it cranks right up, but when i try to upload the 3 bar setup the car wont even try to crank. i have looked at both files and the only difference that i can find is the fact that the new one is a 3bar. i have attached a copy of the file that the car cranks on. can someone please look at it and compare it to the previous one i posted. any help is appreciated.
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odd, only other thing I can tell you is to send an email to support with a link to this thread in it...im at a loss.
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thanks for the advice, i will email them right away. i will let you know what happens.




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