Traction control Frustration!
Originally Posted by 4rdkillr
and then takes my pedal away
Originally Posted by 4rdkillr
No its goin into gear because it breaks the tires loose and then takes my pedal away and loses power
I don't guess by any odd chance that you have any scanning software and can post a log. Speaking of, if you don't have the software to tune with, this whole post may be in vain.
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No I never said it wouldn't shift unless I lifted my foot I said I have to wait for it to shift before I could get back in it to avoid this problem. And no I don't have any software to tune with, plan to get it but when you only make 7.25 an hour, after you pay the car payment and insurance I really don't have much money to play with. I was just looking to see if this sounded familiar to anyone that way I knew what to target first. Also you say if it is doing that traction control is not off which was my title in traction control frustration, because i push the button to turn it off and if it spins on the line nothin happens but then from first to second it acts like its on. Everyone missed that part in the beginning I guess. Here is a question, if it is bouncing off the rev limiter would it have roughly the same feeling(from the drivers seat) as when the traction control takes over?
Originally Posted by 4rdkillr
No I never said it wouldn't shift unless I lifted my foot I said I have to wait for it to shift before I could get back in it to avoid this problem. And no I don't have any software to tune with, plan to get it but when you only make 7.25 an hour, after you pay the car payment and insurance I really don't have much money to play with. I was just looking to see if this sounded familiar to anyone that way I knew what to target first. Also you say if it is doing that traction control is not off which was my title in traction control frustration, because i push the button to turn it off and if it spins on the line nothin happens but then from first to second it acts like its on. Everyone missed that part in the beginning I guess. Here is a question, if it is bouncing off the rev limiter would it have roughly the same feeling(from the drivers seat) as when the traction control takes over?
I really don't want to sound like a jerk, but I've been an 18 year old kid with a car I wanted to drag race at the track all the time too...then I blew up the trans and couldn't afford to fix it, and I had no car for a few months...and I was making more than 7.25 an hour and I didn't have a car payment (I owned it outright) I only had insurance and gas to buy (and food). If you're only making 7.25 an hour, I think you should focus on fixing what sounds like is a transmission problem, or a tuning problem, but you should discontinue racing it until you have something in the bank that can cover the cost of a transmission or other parts if it gets to the point where something does really let go and result in you having no car.
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Actually I don't race it hardly ever as a matter of fact I usually drive under the speed limit I'm well aware of the possibility of breaking parts and the cost if I do. All I was looking for is what the source of the problem could be so that I know what to target when I do have the money to do it. But I don't plan on going to the track every weekend or racing on the street for that matter. I am also 100 percent sure that it is not a transmission issue. Along with that I'm almost certain its an electronic issue. I've been around this stuff my whole life but this is my first endeavor ever into non carb/computer controlled vehicles thus the reason for the post.
I'm by no means an expert but in your case I would just disconnect the traction control module under the hood on the passenger side next to the battery. That way Traction control is turned off and it shouldn't push back the accelerater pedal up.
If you're still experiencing the problem you've described you atleast know it's not TC related.
If you're still experiencing the problem you've described you atleast know it's not TC related.
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Won't that mess with the computer though? I know that when there is something off in the computer in throws other stuff off to, my dad used to have an intrepid and it went nuts every time there was a "weak link" so to speak. And thanks for the advice by the way I guess its worth a shot.
I don't believe this the Traction control. whenever the TCS is actively working the yellow Low Trac light on the dash turns on and will even blink. Also on the f-cars the TCS cuts all the timing and backs off the throttle and it very abrupt and noticeable. Its not a gentle loss of power its just bam and the car looses all power. seriously try it.. leave the traction control on and stomp on it.
It would fall off and have no power as the PCM cuts fuel on and off and if you glance down at the Tach you will see it bounce off the redline and rpms drop and come back up and hear the RPM's bouce.
what you are describing sounds just like my car when the trans started to go. on the 1-2 shift it if I held it wide open it would basically not shift but kind of sit at 5500-6000 like it was stuck in between shifts. when I'd lift off a little it it would shift. Normal part throttle driving it felt fine though and the 2-3 shift still felt fine as well. Also when My trans started to slip, when I'd hammer it going higher speeds like 50mph plus it would do the same and just sit at 5000+ RPM until I eased back off a little to let the trans catch up and shift. Also the trans would run hot as all hell.. like 220 deg all the time and that was with an Aux cooler and a separate fan and I could see the temps shoot up all the sudden when I'd stomp on it and it would hang in between the shifts.
Originally Posted by 4rdkillr
Here is a question, if it is bouncing off the rev limiter would it have roughly the same feeling(from the drivers seat) as when the traction control takes over?
what you are describing sounds just like my car when the trans started to go. on the 1-2 shift it if I held it wide open it would basically not shift but kind of sit at 5500-6000 like it was stuck in between shifts. when I'd lift off a little it it would shift. Normal part throttle driving it felt fine though and the 2-3 shift still felt fine as well. Also when My trans started to slip, when I'd hammer it going higher speeds like 50mph plus it would do the same and just sit at 5000+ RPM until I eased back off a little to let the trans catch up and shift. Also the trans would run hot as all hell.. like 220 deg all the time and that was with an Aux cooler and a separate fan and I could see the temps shoot up all the sudden when I'd stomp on it and it would hang in between the shifts.
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QUOTE]Also on the f-cars the TCS cuts all the timing and backs off the throttle and it very abrubt and noticeable. Its not a gentle loss of power its just bam and the car looses all power.[/QUOTE]
Sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing, it's up and truckin then bam the tires squeal and it nose dives and loses all power, and from the pedal feels just like when the TCS takes over. If it was the tranny it wouldn't go into gear and break the tires loose and I know it is I've seen the tire marks on the street where they broke loose in second although small.
Sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing, it's up and truckin then bam the tires squeal and it nose dives and loses all power, and from the pedal feels just like when the TCS takes over. If it was the tranny it wouldn't go into gear and break the tires loose and I know it is I've seen the tire marks on the street where they broke loose in second although small.